On Sunday, March 10, 2019 at 1:28:28 PM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 3/10/2019 3:51 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Sunday, March 10, 2019 at 8:22:10 AM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 3/10/2019 11:07 AM, wrote:
On Sunday, March 10, 2019 at 2:34:24 PM UTC+1, wrote:
I keep reading see all the bikes coming out and basically all disc brakes. I cannot believe rim brakes are going to be gone but maybe I am just kidding myself. I frankly hate the disc brake look and certainly for a long time parts will be around but are these rim brakes a dead deal.

Deacon Mark

Try to find a ATB without disc brakes. I think that is also gonna happen with road bikes.

Fashion is weird and powerful.

For off road, discs are clearly better. It is not even debatable. Discs are better for some road applications as well...

Agreed - but what is the magnitude on "better"?

As I've said, we're deep into diminishing returns on bikes. Sales
literature pushes people to buy a 17 pound bike instead of a 19 pound
one, so the bike+rider weight diminishes by 1%. Get Dura-Ace instead of
105 because the shifts are 20 milliseconds faster. Ditch your front
derailleur and reduce your aerodynamic drag.

In real life, stopping "better" almost never means anything practical.

but clearly rim brakes are fine for dry weather road riding with aluminum rims. I'm sure they will be around forever.

Yes, and those of us who don't have to do panic stops in the rain on 10%
downhills don't have to respond to this market churning.

Nobody needs anything better than Cambio Corsa!

Those getting into the market are not being price gouged for discs (except perhaps pad costs), and discs are better than rim brakes in many ways. Discs allow you to run massive tires and stop way better than cantis in conditions that justify using massive tires, like mud and snow. If you are a one-bike-quiver kind of person, a disc is really the way to go. Get a bike like my Norco Search, and you could race crits on Saturday, switch the wheels and go ride light single-track on Sunday. Or spend a ton of dough and get one of the 3T aero gravel bikes! https://us.3t.bike/en/products/bikes...mount-565.html Throw on fenders and big tires and be an all-weather hard man!

Yes, if you jump into the disc and through axle market, don't expect to swap wheels with your 1987 Cannondale -- but then again, don't expect to swap your 1987 wheels with your 1997 wheels. Your rack should work with some spacers on a disc frame. Your disc frame will also have an internal headset, BB30 or something like it (unless you shop for a threaded BB), and probably a half-dozen things that will make you cry about the modern era. Some crying is justified, particularly if you get a frame with all internally routed cabling. But when its all put together, it's quite nice. Again, though, I'm perfectly content with caliper brakes on my dry weather Emonda. Great ride today.


-- Jay Beattie.