Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
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Paul Luton wrote:

At pinch points : "in the absence of a cycle bypass) a minimum gap of 4
metres is recommended unless additional features to significantly reduce
motor vehicle speeds are incorporated"

Pinch points are a work of Stan. A 4m wide pinch point is not a pinch
point at all,

all to the good then.

but if there is a cycle bypass you are faced with an
unappealing choice of using the main carriageway and suffering
occasional harassment or using the bypass and entering a traffic stream
where drivers are not expecting you and will automatically assume
priority even if they do.

depends on the geometry - a kerb build out could deflect drivers out of
the way. Bypass then give way !!!!@@@@.


I think the best means to reduce vehicle speeds is to stop isolating
drivers from perceiving the people they place at risk - shared space, in
other words. Strict liability would also be a huge plus.


Strict liability first then shared space but this may take a while to
achieve! Until then some decent infrastructure will bet more bums on
saddles.

Paul


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CTC Right to Ride Rep. for Richmond upon Thames