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Old January 19th 18, 01:20 AM posted to uk.rec.driving,uk.rec.cycling,uk.legal
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Default Reducing speed to 20mph 'created more deaths than injuries' but council can't afford to scrap them

James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 18 Dec 2017 19:28:57 -0000, Nightjar
wrote:
On 18-Dec-17 6:12 PM, tim... wrote:


"Nightjar" wrote in message
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They are talking of 20mph zones. A 20mph speed limit can be
reversed simply by issuing the necessary traffic order and
removing the signs. A 20mph zone has to be designed to be
self-enforcing, which means lots of traffic calming measures.
Those would also need to be removed and the roads restored to
their former condition to reverse a 20mph zone.

but do they absolutely need to be?

the road outside my estate has speed calming humps, but the speed
limit is still 30 mph


Some measures are not considered to be effective in a 30mph limit and
would probably need to be removed. If humps are retained, they would
need lit warning signs (not required in a 20mph zone) and appropriate
road markings (also not a requirement in a 20mph zone) to be added.


There are no rules, the councils do what they like. There's a 20mph
limit here with a bump which will disable your vehicle completely if
you go more than 5mph over it. Worse still, it's in the middle of
several others which would allow up to 30 mph. Councils operate
above the law and don't give a **** about criminal damage to your
car, or to the spines of the elderly and disabled. They should all
go to jail immediately.


Pillock


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