On Tue, 18 Dec 2018 21:56:16 -0500, Frank Krygowski
wrote:

On 12/18/2018 6:07 PM, AMuzi wrote:

To say a wall is insufficient or ineffective or too expensive is an
argument, and I would engage that. To say there is no problem is
ridiculous.

I personally don't know anyone who thinks there is no problem. But
sadly, I do know a few who still insist that Trump is absolutely right
to demand an entire border, solid concrete, actual wall. It's simplistic
nonsense, but that is what the guy promised, after all.

Oh, and it's going to be beautiful, too. He said so!

Maybe we can get a couple thousand miles of murals? Portsmouth, Ohio did
that on a couple thousand feet of their flood wall. (And those really
are worth seeing.)
http://www.ohiorivertourism.org/murals.html

One of the problems is that the Mexicans apparently know what ladders
are so without sufficient to "man" the wall it can't do much to
prevent people crossing the wall... Hadrian's wall was believed to
have a manning of something like 756 permanently stationed on the wall
itself, about 10 per mile, or so, and there were additional
forts" that were estimated to require 1000 - 1500 troops per fort.

The Israeli wall, I believe, is manned by soldiers who shoot those who
attempt to cross illegally. Will the U.S. be shooting Mexicans?


cheers,

John B.