On 2018-02-19 09:53, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 2/19/2018 11:42 AM, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-02-19 08:21, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 2/19/2018 10:32 AM, AMuzi wrote:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...shing-car.html


(I was test riding a customer's race bike when Asian Kitchen delivery
turned in. They replaced his bike.)

How odd! The magic paint somehow failed to prevent the collision!


The turn signal of the car shown in the video should have. It is not
wise to blow past a car when its turn signal clearly indicates that
the driver intends to turn into your path. While it is still the fault
of the car driver I do not understand how a cyclist could simply
ignore that.

Oh, and bright lights do help in such situations. When a car driver
sees some really bright light in the rear view and outside mirror that
does get their attention. Experienced it myself many times, when they
slammed on the brake pedal.

It depends. The most deadly right hooks occur with large trucks and
buses. Those vehicles have huge blind spots, not "may not notice" spots.
If your light can't be seen (which is very typical in such situations)
it can't help.


On poorly equipped trucks, yes. Others, not so much. Check the lower
round mirror he

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=As6qe58RY0k

Modern trucks have dual panel mirrors where this is more integrated.
Very modern ones have cameras. Anyhow, I would never pass a truck on the
right unless I have established an acknowledged visual contact with the
driver.


In the U.S. it would have been mirror image, so a right hook. Over
there, it's a left hook. Either way, it's a common collision.

And this illustrates the weirdness of the bike lane concept.

Baloney.

So let me ask again:

... Under what
circumstances would a straight-ahead motoring lane be placed between the
curb and a lane where turns are permitted? And when would a motorist
think it's safe to "undertake" like that when a vehicle has its turn
signal blinking?

In other words, who would design an equivalent lane stripe for a motor
vehicle? Not even the most incompetent highway designer. Yet American
bike advocates lobby for such nonsense until the politicians cave in.


They generally don't. European ones sometimes do, they have to learn a
lot more. This is how it's done right:

https://goo.gl/maps/2spLh13Junn

If you virtually move along that road you will see that the bike lane
switches to the middle, in this case even across two right-turn lanes. I
nearly always have to go straight ahead there and despite coming through
there during rush hour never had a problem.


I have witnessed a few such accidents. _All_ of them sans bike lane.

And doubtlessly, almost all of them edge riders.


It's the law in most jurisdictions. Whether one of the exemption
situations applies is entirely up to the cop. In court the cop is nearly
always right. BTDT.


Most of them were of the kind "Oh, dang! I have to turn right here". I
had a close call myself while taking the lane. A Porsche driver
thought it was a good idea to speed past me on the lane left of me and
then turn right into a parking lot. Luckily I was on the MTB with
powerful disc brakes. Maybe the guy didn't think a MTB could be doing
north of 20mph.

I can recall only two sort-of-close-call attempted right hooks while I
was taking the lane. In both cases they started to pass me on my left
then realized they couldn't make it as I held my position and glared at
them. They both dropped back.

One was within a couple blocks of my office at the university. The
perpetrator was a young kid trying to cross my path into the right turn
lane. (I was in the right "straight ahead" lane.) He was even more
confused than the guy described above, because he tried to pass, then
dropped back, then tried to pass again, then almost stopped before
merging right properly from behind me.

We ended up side by side at the light. I looked over at him and said
"You're new at this, aren't you?" He just glared straight ahead until
the light changed.


I recently had a woman stare straight into my eyes and then turn into my
path. Couldn't believe it. Of course I gave her the drill sergeant
holler, the one that makes even large dogs cringe.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/