On 2/19/2018 1:42 PM, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-02-19 09:53, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 2/19/2018 11:42 AM, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-02-19 08:21, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 2/19/2018 10:32 AM, AMuzi wrote:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...shing-car.html



(I was test riding a customer's race bike when Asian Kitchen delivery
turned in. They replaced his bike.)

How odd! The magic paint somehow failed to prevent the collision!


The turn signal of the car shown in the video should have. It is not
wise to blow past a car when its turn signal clearly indicates that
the driver intends to turn into your path. While it is still the fault
of the car driver I do not understand how a cyclist could simply
ignore that.

Oh, and bright lights do help in such situations. When a car driver
sees some really bright light in the rear view and outside mirror that
does get their attention. Experienced it myself many times, when they
slammed on the brake pedal.

It depends. The most deadly right hooks occur with large trucks and
buses. Those vehicles have huge blind spots, not "may not notice" spots.
If your light can't be seen (which is very typical in such situations)
it can't help.


On poorly equipped trucks, yes. Others, not so much. Check the lower
round mirror he

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=As6qe58RY0k

Modern trucks have dual panel mirrors where this is more integrated.

It would be irresponsible to advise anyone to trust the mirrors on a big
truck or bus, no matter how fancy they may appear. Check out these videos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9E1_1M-qhU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djzC4yeMOiU

Anyhow, I would never pass a truck on the
right unless I have established an acknowledged visual contact with the
driver.

But the bike lane sends a different message, as interpreted by the
cyclist in Andrew's link and many other cyclists. Again, this collision
type was responsible for many of the cluster of cyclist deaths in London
a couple years ago.

So let me ask again:

Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* Â* ...Â* Under what
circumstances would a straight-ahead motoring lane be placed between
the
curb and a lane where turns are permitted? And when would a motorist
think it's safe to "undertake" like that when a vehicle has its turn
signal blinking?

In other words, who would design an equivalent lane stripe for a motor
vehicle? Not even the most incompetent highway designer. Yet American
bike advocates lobby for such nonsense until the politicians cave in.


They generally don't. European ones sometimes do, they have to learn a
lot more. This is how it's done right:

https://goo.gl/maps/2spLh13Junn

If you virtually move along that road you will see that the bike lane
switches to the middle, in this case even across two right-turn lanes. I
nearly always have to go straight ahead there and despite coming through
there during rush hour never had a problem.

Joerg, there absolutely are advocacy groups lobbying for bike lanes on
_all_ streets, and wanting them to the far right for protection. They
even lobby specifically for bike lanes in door zones. I know of two
cities in Ohio that caved into those demands.

I have witnessed a few such accidents. _All_ of them sans bike lane.

And doubtlessly, almost all of them edge riders.


It's the law in most jurisdictions. Whether one of the exemption
situations applies is entirely up to the cop. In court the cop is nearly
always right. BTDT.

I've tried without success to correct your ignorance of the laws. Yes,
there are some cops who are also ignorant, but that's why advocacy
groups should be working on education instead of demanding more
defective facilities. Education of cyclists, education of motorists and
education of law enforcement officials.

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- Frank Krygowski