On Monday, November 11, 2013 8:26:00 PM UTC-8, Clive George wrote:
On 12/11/2013 02:12, Jay Beattie wrote:

On Sunday, November 10, 2013 6:38:28 PM UTC-8, Dan wrote:

Clive George writes:







On 10/11/2013 03:30, Phil W Lee wrote:



Frank Krygowski considered Sat, 9 Nov 2013



09:18:48 -0800 (PST) the perfect time to write:







http://tinyurl.com/cambridge-lights







- Frank Krygowski







All courtesy of the tory blight, which has been inflicted on



Cambridgeshire, (elected by a single figure percentage of voters) and



refuses to take road safety seriously enough to do anything about



dangerous driving, speed limit enforcement, careless driving,



infringement of cycle lanes by motor vehicles, or threatening



behaviour (as long as it's done with or from a motor vehicle). And



note that the car that was stopped without lights only received "words



of advice", despite clearly posing a far greater hazard to the general



public. Clear double standard (if you can find any standard at all -



I doubt if Sir Graham Dim could even spell it).







I don't really mind them having the occasional blitz on unlit cyclists



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it's not a continuous thing, it's a few hours, it gets headlines, and



encourages people to get lights. Note the timing - after the clocks



change, which is when people need reminding.







The fines aren't even fines unless you fail to demonstrate you've gone



and got some lights. That's positive policing, not being miserable



facists.







I don't know. What got me about the article was how there



were too many unlit bikes going by for the blitz squad to



even make much of a dent. And the cops attitude? "Like



shooting fish in a barrel." Does no one think they're



treating people (hoardes of people apparently going about



their business without a problem) people who may have room



for improvement for their own safety being treated as if they



were a menace to society?







"Load up the fish guns and gather 'round the barrel, boys!"



Well, you can give a man a fish and feed him for a day, or give him a gun and a barrel of fish . . .



Anyway, because of this: http://vimeo.com/25717583# We got this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5RdFFlFz9g



I mean you can at least fake following the law -- slow a little, act like you didn't see the sign . . . claim not to understand English. Damn. They even pulled over the girl with the milk crate rack basket! Man, this is a bad day for the Bohemians.



Shouldn't that be a give way rather than stop? That's the way

roundabouts are supposed to work, and why they're a good junction design.

Yes. I think the stop signs went in for traffic calming and pedestrian issues. One could certainly argue that "yield" signs are more appropriate -- and more common even here in PDX.

-- Jay Beattie.