On 4/27/2018 9:00 AM, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-04-26 15:40, Roger Merriman wrote:
KJohn B. wrote:
On Tue, 24 Apr 2018 19:14:31 -0700 (PDT), jbeattie
wrote:

On Tuesday, April 24, 2018 at 5:14:03 PM UTC-7, John B.
wrote:
On Tue, 24 Apr 2018 11:04:26 -0700, Joerg

wrote:

On 2018-04-24 10:10, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On Tuesday, April 24, 2018 at 12:10:53 PM UTC-4,
Joerg wrote:
On 2018-04-24 08:01, AMuzi wrote:
On 4/24/2018 9:47 AM, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-04-23 17:11, AMuzi wrote:
On 4/23/2018 5:52 PM, Joerg wrote:
The worn Koolstop pads are 52mm long. Would
these fit
Koolstop?

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/ByQAA...KD/s-l1600.jpg


I am a little puzzled by the clip that gets
shipped along
because Koolstop only has the set screw.


Those replace this Kool Stop product:
http://www.koolstop.com/english/v_typeholder.html
inserts:
http://www.koolstop.com/english/v_type.html
http://www.koolstop.com/english/v_type2.html

If your setup does not include the little wire
pins then
maybe, maybe
not. What is it that you have now?


They look like this but with the holes in the
metal body:

https://ixquick-proxy.com/do/spg/sho...13353ae498d1cb




You loosen the set screw and the pad slides out
the back.
However, I don't want Koolstop stuff anymore. It's
expensive, the pads wear quickly and to top it off
the
mounting hardware rusts fast. YGWYPF? I don't
think so.



The EVO inserts you referenced earlier are the
wrong part.

You probably want these:
http://www.koolstop.com/english/dura_type.html

Product menu in that link is easy to use.


Thanks. $10+ is a bit much for those but I saw them
on EBay for $8.

Good grief! If $2 is that important to you, your
business must be failing.
Spend less time posting here, spend more time finding
clients. Then support
your LBS.


I don't want any more clients, want less clients, want
to retire and
ride. Anyhow, after Jay's response I just ordered the
black version for
dry conditions. $7.25, that's an ok price for rim
brake pads. Not as low
as Clarks but with these I don't have to install and
adjust the whole
thing, just loosen a set screw and swap the rubber parts.

I think the question is whether you want a cheap pad or
an effective
pad. I can buy brake pads locally, actually the entire
brake shoe -
pad, holder and nut to hold it on - for approximately
50 cents each,
about a dollar a wheel. They don't last long and they
don't stop very
well, but they are cheap.

Or I can buy a Koolstop look alike for about 10 dollars
a wheel that
do stop in wet or dry conditions and last a long time.

As somebody once said, you pays your money and you
takes your choice.
(But after you make your choice don't whine about it)

I can get KoolStop salmon pads at Western Bikeworks for
$6.63 -- less
that Joerg's FleaBay purchase.
https://www.westernbikeworks.com/pro...inserts?sg=501

I'm a revered member of the Leaders' Club!

I'd go down to the store (which is near my work), get
them off the wall
-- say "hey" to the guy and gals. I can really drive
down the price if
I get some of their free micro-roast coffee. In fact, if
I bring the
wife and kid and get three cups of that fine coffee, I
could drive the
price down to zero. They also have a beer tap, but I
think they charge
for that. I've gotten more than $6.63 of free advice
from them -- and
the head mechanic is the son of an olde tyme bike-head,
so he knows all
the old lore, and he builds steel frames. Priceless
conversations.

If you don't support your stores, they will go away --
particularly
stores in a small town like Shingle Springs. Joerg
should pay the extra
buck and buy local. Nobody is getting rich off his buck.

-- Jay Beattie.

The thing is.... how often does one change brake pads?

Admittedly I don't ride as much as I used to but even in
my heyday I
don't remember that brake pads were an important factor
in my bike
maintenance budget.

On a road, no but off road can be quite quick, my CX bike
ate koolstop
Salmons in 100 ish miles, the Gravel bike with cable disks
trashed its
front pads within 250 miles, it has been very wet and thus
gritty.

I can remember wearing pads out on Canti MTB in single
ride if it was very
wet/gritty area.


That is one of the reasons why I'd never buy any new bike
with rim brakes. Some roads in our area are either unpaved,
gravel or connect to a gravel road section and thus have a
lot of dust on them. However, my road bike was built in 1982
and there were no disc brakes available, at least not in
Europe.


Shimano's was around 1976 IIRC:
https://bmxmuseum.com/forsale/248919


--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971