"Blackblade" wrote in message ...

I didn't say you shouldn't take account of complaints; I said you
need to consider what percentage of the user community they come from.

Edward Dolan wrote:

A good complaint is a good complaint. Most users do not
complain no matter what is transpiring. Percentages don’t matter.

Nonsense. If a thousand people use a trail and only one complains about what is transpiring then, however good the complaint, that suggests that it's a minority view.

Not so ... BECAUSE most folks will never complain - period.

... but properly constructed surveys can be carefully
adjusted to be as close to objective as possible. You're happy to just
live in your own echo chamber and assume everyone else shares it ... they
don't.

No more so than you. Your pleading for surveys will get you
nowhere since it is all just mountain biker propaganda. You do not have a clue
about what is going on in the hiking community.

The information that I do have about the hiking community which, by the way, I also belong to is that the vast majority have no issue with sharing trails in most circumstances. The surveys that have been conducted support that view. If you want to disprove it then provide me with some data ... tell me what is going on in the hiking community ... but with real figures not just your 'thousands' which has been rather discredited. Otherwise, it's just hearsay from you and, as I'm sure you're aware, hearsay isn't admissible in evidence .. for good reason.

The only figures I am interested in are real life complaints from hikers and equestrians ... of which there are plenty.
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Mountain bikes have wheels. Wheels are for roads.

Trails are for walking. What’s the matter? Can’t walk?

Ed Dolan the Great
aka
Saint Edward the Great