On Jan 11, 1:09*pm, mtb Dad wrote:
Anyone heard of an all purpose frame that can be used for both TT and
pursuit? *I guess it would have track dropouts with a derailleur
hanger, and an adjustbale bb (Phil?) to get track and road chain
lines. *Seems like a better investment for the occasional competitor,
and for loaning out to juniors, rather than specialty bikes for each.

Miche BBs have lipless cups, like Phils do, at 1/5th of the cost.
They're ISO-taper, so you'd need to use Campy cranks with them, but
they're not much pricier on ebay than the Suginos that the hipsters
like.