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On May 21, 11:18 am, "Mike Jacoubowsky"
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Greg, Frankie, Betsy, Floyd, Tyler, Christophe, Filipo, David, Pierre,
Steffan Prentis, Emma O'Reilly. The list of good people smeared to
maintain the myth is endless. These folks should sue for defamation
even though it will not bring back much of what they lost to this
lying moron from Plano. The people in the cancer community who look
up to him are the most violated victims. To use their cancer to help
build his myth and cover up his life of lies is despicable.
I'll give you some slack when including the anciallary figures in this
case, but Frankie, Floyd & Tyler? C'mon, there's no personal
responsibility in your world? These guys all made a choice. Nobody
forced them to dope themselves, nobody forced them to stay in a vocation
in which it appears, from their own stories, that the only way you could
win or even be competitive was to dope. And there remains a shocking
lack of forensic evidence so far. It will be interesting, if we get to
see the Grand Jury testimony, to see if the various stories all line up,
or if it has remained a lot of individual stories but no two of them
supporting the same event.
--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycleswww.ChainReactionBicycles.com
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Dude, he's called Frankie, Floyd and Tyler liars and and implied that
they've committed perjury.
I hope a few of these folks get together and sue his Plano ass for
defamation and business interference (some of them).
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So it's only the last one standing who has any accountability? These guys,
by popular account, have been lying and making upstories FOR YEARS. Now
suddenly they've changed their tune, saying they're telling the truth now,
they were lying before when they denied various allegations against each of
them. What makes Lance's liability in lawsuits and/or personal credibility
in general any different from the rest of them?
And then there's Floyd. You really want to bring him up in the same
paragraph as "honorable" people? Floyd continued to make up stories (lie)
after his big confession. Some people cannot help themselves. Maybe Floyd
*was* treated like a second-class citizen when working for Lance. But he
can't help but make up fictional stories that sound like they could have
happened, to bolster his claims. Specifically, as I said before, Floyd was
not riding "old" equipment that was any different from what anyone else on
the team was riding. Floyd continued to spew nonsense long after his
"confession."
How much nonsense from others? I don't know. But I think it unlikely that a
low-level mafia grunt would be able to successfully sue his boss for libel,
and that might be what we're looking at here. It could be a bunch of
now-repentent mafia grunts, but I think that's a distinction without legal
merit.
Regarding the case in general, as I said elsewhere, what will give
credibility to the "Lance is a lying doper" line will be one or both of the
following-
#1: Forensic evidence, which has been amazingly lacking so far, at least
what we know of. Maybe there will be a big surprise the week before the TdF.
#2: Grand Jury testimony from multiple sources documenting the same event
the same way. So far, we have many people each with their own separate Lance
doping tale. What we don't seem to have are even two people documenting the
same event, despite the fact that Lance was typically around more than just
one person when these things are said to have happened. If it turns out that
we do have such testimony, then it's pretty much case-closed for the
Lance-is-clean camp.
--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA