On 2019-01-12 08:07, jbeattie wrote:
On Saturday, January 12, 2019 at 7:10:12 AM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
On 1/11/2019 11:11 PM, wrote:
Seriously, what is the point of these things? What problem do
they solve and is it worth the extra maintenance hassles for
non-racing riders?


The Ethos of Sales:

"The crap we sold you last year is no good. Here's the new one."

Dude, are you planning your own commercial demise? Get on board! As
TK points out, if you live in goathead-ville, tubeless is great, ...


It's not. Just one example: I was standing at a horse ranch near
singletrack, in Goatsheadville. A young couple came by and stopped. "Are
these horses friendly? Can we pet them also?" ... "Yeah, but by the way,
I hear some hissing" ... "Oh no, not again!". Green stuff was gently
oozing out of a pinhole in his tubeless front tire. Then we looked at
hers and the pressure was rather low. A thorn! She pulled it out,
sprattle, sprattle ... green stuff started oozing as well. So out came
the trusty Topeak Pocket Rocket pump. They said the slime will seal it.
Well, it did, for about five miles and then the ride was unfortunately
over for these two, the pressure just would no longer hold well. I could
not help them because I only had one spare tube but both their MTB were
flat.


... and
RR is better than slime-filled tubes in armored tires.


What's RR?


... Joerg should go tubeless, and in the MTB world, tubeless is king.


Nope. Thorn-resistant tubes plus tire liners rule. In my case the tire
liner is sleeved by an old regular thickness tube to avoid chafing.
Similar on my road bike except no sleeving of the tire liners.

Last time I had a flat? Heck, I don't even remember. The patch kit and
spare tubes were so far exclusively used on bikes of other riders.


... I get enough
plumbing and goopy fluids with Shimano hydraulic discs and probably
will pass on tubeless, but OTOH, riding in rain and having little
pieces of glass fret through my tires gets old, and tubeless might be
just what I need. Next year -- or maybe the year after that.


I tried slime tubes years ago. Didn't work, I eventually got flats and
then it was very nasty. Green splotches on the garage floor, always
having to watch that the dogs won't lick those, yuck. I threw those
tubes into the trash with gusto the millisecond Fedex brought the thick
thorn reistant tubes. These:

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....XL._SL256_.jpg

--
Regards, Joerg

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