On Feb 6, 8:41*am, Bob Dole wrote:
On Feb 5, 6:16*am, Ozark Bicycle



wrote:
On Feb 4, 10:16*pm, Tom Sherman
wrote:

Ryan Cousineau wrote:
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*Tom Sherman wrote:

Ryan Cousineau wrote:
In article ,
*Tom Sherman wrote:

Tom, have you really been holding onto a grudge against Carl for this
pretty minor affront since 2004?!?!

I had hardly thought of it until the recent flare up. However, I
apparently have exceptional memory retention for events.

I almost admire your single-mindedness, though I gravely doubt your
sense of proportion.

Have you noticed that Mr. Fogel has pretended I do not exist since that
episode? What is your comment on that?

Killfiles work.

The longer version is that there's no such thing as a right to be paid
attention to. If anyone cares to ignore my posts, I don't hold it
against them. Ignoring people on Usenet does not reflect badly on the
ignorer, who may have any number of reasons.

Thinking that being ignored is a big deal reflects badly only on the
person doing it....

So why do I get held to a different standard than Mr. Fogel? Why is my
remembering that he falsely accused me of lying different than Mr. Fogel
still having me in a kill-file over three (3) years later?

IMO, you might be "held to a different standard" because people
already *know* what a sleazy, weasel-like wacko Carl Fogel is.

Some tolerate Fogel because they "enjoy" his Google scrounging
"finds", the same way a family tolerates a vicious dog because it
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In the Sheldon Brown thread, Peter Cole wrote something that may be
apropos he

"A few years ago, I was
involved in a rather sharp exchange on a local (Boston) bike list. I
don't remember who brought it up when I next visited Sheldon's shop,
but
I started to go on about how rigid, etc. I thought the other guy was.
Sheldon only looked pained. "You both are good guys," he said "you
should be friends." He was right, as usual. He couldn't see the sense
of
two people with so much in common getting petty over some trivial
issue.
It genuinely bothered him that two people he liked could fail to like
each other.

We are in this group because of our connection to cycling, and on
this
thread because of our connection to Sheldon. The things that bring us
together are deep, those that divide us, shallow. I feel a little
awkward, he'd never sermonize like this, but I know that's the way he
felt. "

Peter Cole may have thought the other guy "rigid", but I'll wager that
that guy did not forward private emails, unsolicited, to a third party
nor send out nasty snail mails to other posters family members. Fogel
has committed both those foul deeds (I know this from first hand
experience).