On 2017-09-09 08:08, AMuzi wrote:
On 9/9/2017 9:20 AM, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-09-08 14:56, wrote:
On Friday, September 8, 2017 at 11:48:34 AM UTC-7, Joerg
wrote:
On 2017-09-07 18:10, John B. wrote:

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By the way, the number of "boat people" who escaped
Vietnam and
arrived in a foreign country amounted to about 800,000,
call it
a million and an additional 1,000,000 escaped by other
means for
a total of 2,000,000 during the 20 year period from 1975
- 95. Or
roughly 100,000 annually.

From a nation with an average population of about 61.5
million
during the same period.


That qualifies as mass exodus, especially considering the
untold
millions who did not succeed or didn't dare. Plus those
snatched
and sent to "re-eduction camps" a.k.a gulag.

What I'm trying to figure out is how someone that came
from the
previous communist East Germany doesn't know what he's
talking about
when he discusses communism but some jackass who never
lived under
such a regime can tell you all about it.


A lot of times it's brainwash. They were indoctrinated with
this stuff from the day they entered kindergarden and it
then never stopped.

They never got any meaningful information. For example, I
personally know people from East Germany who never knew
there were gulags in that country with torture and all. We
had a relative who was imprisoned in one of those and later
died of the health consequences the torture had caused.
Remember they had no free media. Even watching West German
TV could get people into hot water if a neighbor snitched
and supposedly about 10% of the population were registered
snitches. When communism fell the files (Stasi-Akten) were
opened and some people's jaws dropped. "What? He, too? I
thought he was my friend!"


Indeed. In West Germany, the camps became memorials. Under the Stasi,
they stayed open - only changed the name on the gate.


The one where they tortured our relative was in East Berlin, they must
have built that for this purpose, not for killing people. It had a
basement where they could partially flood cells, forcing the prisoners
stand in cold water for hours. That's what ultimately did him in.

--
Regards, Joerg

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