On Apr 16, 11:28*pm, cal wrote:
I use San Marco Rolls saddles and have done so for the last maybe 10
or more years. *The Ti railes ones are just as strong and maybe
stronger than the ones with Chromoly rails. *I believe that today, Ti
rails may be all that are available anymore. *The tops are quite flat
from nose to tail and to my recollection have always been so out of
the box. *I do recall in the distant past having one or two instances
of a Rolls saddle becoming swaybacked after a couple of years of use,
which made it very uncomfortable. *That said, it has been many years
since that has happened and I have gone though quite a few Rolls since
that time without a recurrance of the problem. *I discard them now
when the leather becomes very cracked and rough due to prolonged and
repeated soaking with sweat. *Liberal applications from time to time
of neatsfoot oil does go a long way toward postponing or preventing
the onset of cracking. *This saddle (Rolls) is the most comfortable
and satisfactory saddle I have ever experienced. *I weigh slightly
over 200 lbs and ride 5000-7000 miles per year.

Hope this helps. *

Cal

P.S. *Rolls saddles are getting a little harder to find these days. *I
find that Colorado Cyclist sometimes has them and almost always Excel
Sports, Boulder Colorado has them. *I always have my next one or two
in the box in my closet.

On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 13:47:21 -0700 (PDT),

" wrote:
Hi All,

I have a few San Marco Rolls saddles. Alle were picked up on eBay. One
steel-rail NOS from '86, one used steel-rail from '88, and one
titanium rails one from 2002.

When I bought the Ti rail one, I didn't realize it was Ti until it
came in the mail. Since I'm not a weight weenie, and I am wary of the
Ti rails, I shelved the saddle, content to use the other two which are
quite comfortable.

Yesterday I was doing some experimting with position, and I mounted
the Ti saddle so I could easily swap things around testing different
saddle tilts. For some reason the Ti saddle was alway better, no
matter what. This was confusing, until I looked closely a the saddle
and noticed the Ti one has a much less pronounced profile. It is more
flat, while the steel rail ones have a marked sway-back shape, and
softer shells.

So is this a fluke, or do all the Ti rail Rollses have *a flatter
profile and stiffer shell? Or is this related to production date? This
Ti rail saddle is absolutely perfect and I'd like to get more just
like it, but I don't want to just buy a whole bunch of saddles like
the extra sway-back ones I already have.

Any Rolls experts out there?

Joseph

My "old" ones were slightly swaybacked from start. Not from my 220lbs.
Good to hear the recollections about flattish Ti's.

Joseph