On 21/03/2018 4:59 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Wednesday, March 21, 2018 at 12:30:10 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-03-21 12:20, jbeattie wrote:
On Wednesday, March 21, 2018 at 11:39:48 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-03-21 08:49, jbeattie wrote:
On Wednesday, March 21, 2018 at 7:51:31 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-03-20 17:48, jbeattie wrote:
On Tuesday, March 20, 2018 at 4:44:59 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-03-20 15:54, sms wrote:
On 3/20/2018 3:18 PM, Joerg wrote:

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The question is, how do you know if a bottle is proper
when buying one online?

Stansport is primarly a camping equipment company. Buy
from a supplier of bicycle equipment.


But is sez "bike bottle" ...

https://www.stansport.com/bike-bottle-26-oz-214-26

I guess they need to learn and test their designs before
release.


I like the Clean Designs bottle
https://www.cleanbottle.com/


30 bucks, yikes. I like their bottom screw lid though.
Thanks, will look for that brand then.


Hmmmm. I wonder where you could buy a water bottle?
https://tinyurl.com/y9zbb7fg


I wrote that I have a source for fitting bottles, I could just
buy more from Cal Gear because they fit like a glove.

The reason for my post was to find out why there isn't a real
standard. Like there is for wheel diameters, tires (well,
maybe with the exception of some Contis). I guess nobody
knows.

There is a standard -- 73mm.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bottle_cage You bought a ****ty
water bottle from an outdoor equipment company that probably drew
a bottle on the back of napkin, gave it to some OE plastic bottle
manufacturer in PRC and then marketed the results as a bicycle
water bottle. Its like complaining about Walmart bikes. I
wouldn't be surprised if the bottle is radioactive and full of
carcinogens.

What's more surprising to me is that your cages cannot
accommodate a 1mm variance.


It's almost 2mm and as I wrote the indentation is also way off.


You need better cages. You can also avoid the whole issue by
going over to your lauded trail-end bike shop, Sam's Town
Cyclery, and buying bottles that you know will fit. Fly the
colors! Support your LBS.


I will if his prices are reasonable and he has 25oz bottles. His
web site is, ahem, not quite there yet.

Who cares about price! The spread couldn't be more than a buck or
two, and you want to support the shop. You get cool looking bottles
with graphics that make you part of the Sam's Town Cyclery in-crowd.
People will come up to you on the trail while you're petting horses
and want to talk about Sam's Town. You'll make friends and influence
people.


For about 20-30 rides, then the bottle looks blackish and sand-blasted
and nothing will be readable.


I'm about to walk over to the Bike Gallery to buy a tube and some
glue (flat on the way to work, old glue tube dried out and wrong size
spare tube). I might just get the glue. Anyway, I'll get scalped,
but for what -- a $1? They're nice guys and worked hard to coordinate
the delivery of my Trek from Trek Co. Shout out to Justin. Anyway, I
get endless free advice from them, and it does not pain me to pay a
little more than internet bargain-basement prices for disposables.
Yes, there is a point when it becomes highway robbery for a tube, but
BG is not that kind of shop. You also have to look at it as an
average. I've gotten some killer sale-table deals from BG.


I don't mind either if it's a couple of buck more. Got to support the
local guys which is why I bought my MTB locally for about $100 more
versus online. What I do mind is if stuff costs 5x or more versus
online. As is often the case with brake pads, caliper extenders, lights
and so on.

And then there is just getting screwed by everyone on price, i.e., things that used to be cheap are expensive everywhere. For example, at Bike Gallery:

1. 5g tube of Rema glue: $2.50. Crap! So, on line, $5.92 plus free shipping at Amazon. $2.95 at Tree Fort. http://www.treefortbikes.com/product...Gram-Tube.html $8.95 plus free shipping at Niagra. https://www.niagaracycle.com/categor...id-5-gram-tube $3.99 at Universal across town. Incroyable! What is up with that?


2.


I try to support the LBS as much as possible. For tubes I can save a
couple of bucks buying online but I usually have to buy enough to avoid
shipping costs and then hope that I don't get hit with duty. So I just
buy them from the shop.

Tires on the other hand are getting ridiculous. I can get a pair of
Conti GP4000s from ChainReactionCycles for the price of one tire locally.