On Sun, 03 Sep 2017 21:33:39 -0500, Tim McNamara
wrote:

On Sat, 02 Sep 2017 15:02:04 -0500, AMuzi wrote:
On 9/2/2017 2:37 PM, wrote:

I worked on many medical instruments and the company managers didn't
want us to even go into hospitals during tests. Every possible
bacteria is floating around ANY hospital. High numbers of deaths from
hospital acquired infections really only tells you that the general
population is not very healthy.

And in the USA that is primarily from a large illegal and legal
immigrant population that has arrived from countries that do not have
particularly good health.


That's true, and historically very high at the moment.

No, it's not true that legal and illegal immigrants are to blame for
this. Most of the burden of health care costs in America are the result
of treating chronic illnesses: hypertension, hyperlipidemia, obesity,
diabetes, COPD, arthritis, etc. Most of those are "natural born"
Americans



The last time foreign-born people living here were at this high a
proportion,

Got a cite for that? 'Cuz immigrants been coming to the US every day of
my life so far. It's not like that has ever stopped in the past 58
years. Just with back of the envelope figuring, which may no tbe
accurate, it seems like the percentage of imigrants in the US is now
lower than during the majority of US history. That's how your family
got here. And mine. Famine Irish on my Dad's side; not sure my Mom's
German ancestors came to the US. Every human living in America is the
descendant of an immigrant.


Actually almost everyone's ancestors have been coming to the Americas
for about, if you want to include the Scandinavians, a thousand years
:-) More recently, the late comers, arrived beginning in the 1500's.

The original inhabitants, due to a very poorly thought out immigration
policy, seem to make up about 0.9% of the U.S. population, as of a
2017 estimate.

...we ended up with The Chinese Exclusion Act as a reaction
and much similar legislation through to the Johnson Reed Act after
which immigration was minimal for the next 30 years.

American companies actively sought out Chinese workers to come to the
US- having agents in China sign them up, provide transportation to the
US, etc. That was how the western half of the transcontinental railroad
got built. Without that, there would have been a fraction of
immigration from China than there was. They came because they were
needed and because they were cheaper than hiring white people.

--
Cheers,

John B.