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Old September 22nd 18, 03:38 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
JNugent[_10_]
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Default Cycle box death judge gets it right for once

On 22/09/2018 12:51, RJH wrote:
On 21/09/2018 21:11, JNugent wrote:
On 21/09/2018 20:52, wrote:
QUOTE:
Barry Northcott pulled into the zone which is designed to protect
cyclists at a traffic lights in Whitechapel High Street and failed to
spot Karla Norman.

Jailing him for 15 months this morning, Judge Christopher Kinch QC
said: "It may be frustrating to see cyclists - swarming or otherwise
- pulling in front at junctions.

"But the box is the device placed there to protect vulnerable
cyclists from the consequences of not being seen as traffic pulls away.

*****"Motorists simply have to accept that, and it is not open to
them to decide when and where they may ignore that rule."*****
EMPHASIS MINE.

He was also banned from driving for five years and 30 weeks.

END QUOTE.

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/lat...arry-Northcott


The report is opaque (which isn't a surprise).

Did the coach driver pull up behind the stationary cyclist then drive
over her when the lights changed to green?

Did he just drive over her without stopping because the lights were
green as he approached?


I'd interpret as just ploughing into the cyclist on a red light. Driving
into the cycle area at a red light is pretty routine IME - I'd guess the
driver was in some sort of autopilot mode.


I don't believe it's as clear-cut as that, which is why I didn't offer
it as an option.

The report is fairly quiet on the sort of detail which would assist, but
it says (inter alia): "The 32-year-old suffered “devastating injuries”
when she was dragged under the huge vehicle on February 6 last year".

"Dragged under" just doesn't suggest a collision with the rear of the
bike whilst the coach was slowing to a stop over the last very few yards
before a red light. It suggests a glancing blow from the side of the
coach while it was turning (all too common an occurrence in London over
the past n years, it sometimes seems), which in turn suggests a green
light, or a green light for the turn at least.

I woner whether there are any better reports of the incident (or the trial)?

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