On 2018-09-10 13:26, jbeattie wrote:
On Monday, September 10, 2018 at 11:49:20 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-09-09 08:33, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 9/9/2018 10:44 AM, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-09-08 17:27, jbeattie wrote:
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I bet I haul more stuff out of my yard on a more regular basis than
you haul wood pellets and fire wood. I hauled off an entire 40' blue
spruce and an equally tall fir, both of which I cut with a chainsaw
here in suburbia. I hauled that off with a Subaru wagon and a utility
trailer. Another good part about having a utility trailer is that you
can fill it up and leave it, unlike a pick-up. I filled mine up again
this weekend.
No space for a utility trailer. Sez SWMBO :-)
[Jay Beattie wrote:] I put two bikes and a rack in the back
of a VW bug.
Of course I have done stuff like that before. The results were
often unpleasant, such as bent derailer hangers and out of
shape brake rotors.
It's all about competence.
Nope, it happens.
The most that has happened to me is that I got grease on the back of
the seats. I've been stuffing bikes in cars for decades.
The main issue though is a lower back problem because a lot of
lifting while bent is required, something that can really ruin
my day.
You have to pick up a bike to put it in a pick-up truck, unless you
have a ramp, and then you have to pick up the ramp.
Ramps are easy. That is exactly one of the tools one uses when there are
lower back issues.
And how is it that you're hauling loads of fire wood with a bad back?
Are you bringing it in one stick at a time? One pellet at a time?
If you need a big bad pick-up truck for all the gnarly stuff you do
in Cameron Park (way out in the country, five minutes from the
nearest SuperCuts), you must be awesome rugged, a big strong bear of
a man -- certainly manly enough to pick up a bike. How do you put
your bike on the inadequate municipal bus racks?
Anyone with lower back issues who wants to stay active develops the
requisite tricks how to lift. Never ever bent over, like you have to do
when stacking bikes inside a station wagon or SUV.
Assume a vertical and fairly rigid stance, bend down into the knees,
grab whatever needs to be lifted, straighten knees, walk it to where it
needs to go, lower the load.
For heavy stuff such as large oak or pine rounds I carry a board upon
which I roll them up into the SUV.
Inrerestingly, my back spasm bouts or pain where I couldn't even get up
from bed have dropped to almost zero since I started mountain biking a
few years ago. I guess that is because more core muscle develops.
Cars are far superior to pick-ups unless you use your pick-up to
pick-up things every day. As actually used, pick-ups are just
passenger cars with ****ty interior storage capacity and bad gas
mileage. I see the suburban cowboys out in Clackamas County with the
spotless, giant, chrome festooned F-five-zillion trucks with duals
and naked lady mud flaps -- driving around and puking diesel smoke
for nothing but show. They're driving to the local supermarket. And
with mini trucks, you don't have any interior room for anything. The
cargo goes into the bed to get blown around, rained on, bounced
around, etc. And when it snows, you end up hauling snow.
We think differently about pickup trucks here.
Frank: My SUV gets 25mpg with California gas, 28mpg with gas from Nevada
or Oregon.
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Regards, Joerg
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