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Old December 22nd 17, 12:32 AM posted to uk.rec.driving,uk.rec.cycling,uk.legal
Nick Finnigan
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Default Reducing speed to 20mph ‘created more deaths

On 21/12/2017 11:09, wrote:
On Wed, 20 Dec 2017 18:22:23 +0000
Nick Finnigan wrote:
On 18/12/2017 17:36, Nightjar wrote:

They are talking of 20mph zones. A 20mph speed limit can be reversed simply
by issuing the necessary traffic order and removing the signs. A 20mph zone
has to be designed to be self-enforcing, which means lots of traffic
calming measures.


It doesn't have to be: all of the recent 20mph zones in Lancashire just
have new signs on poles.

Those would also need to be removed and the roads
restored to their former condition to reverse a 20mph zone.


... and some stretches of roads reverted to 30mph after the locals
complained.


I doubt anyone expects cars to stick to 20 anyway. I imagine the thinking


For most of the zones you couldn't get above 20mph anyway.

behind it is that at 30 cars do anything up to 40 so put 20 signs up and
they'll do 25-30 which is acceptable

On the main roads, cars would stick to 30mph in a 30 limit; with the 20
signs people seemed to think you are breaking the limit anyway, and it is
not going to be enforced so you might as well be not hanged for a sheep ...
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