On Tue, 06 May 2008 10:05:54 -0700, Artemisia wrote:

They feel too far forward, practically just under my toes. When I
pedal unclipped (much more comfortable but dangerous) I go much
farther back on the foot. But how can I move them? They are screwed in
and the holes are only in one place.

Mine only have two screw holes, but they screw into a plate which can
slide back and forth (slotted holes in the sole of the shoe itself).

Under your toes sounds too far forward - under the balls of your feet
would be better. If you're bending your foot too much and putting a lot
of force through your foot then it will hurt quite a lot (like running
around on your tip toes all the time).

I never had this problem on my upright bikes and unclipped. I think it
has to do with being able to move the foot about and reposition it when
it starts hurting.

I often get a lot of numbness in my feet when riding (only notice when I
stop and take shoes off), and my feet also go cold. I think it's just
because the laces are tight: LBS told me that feet swell a bit when being
used so if my laces are tight when I set off then they'll be too tight
after a few miles!

Also, are your innersoles worn? I replaced mine with cheap ones when I
washed the shoes. They were ok for a while but now I can feel the cleat
through the shoe as they've worn a bit. The original insoles were really
rigid but the new ones were really soft.

Not hurting on an upright bike though is puzzling me though!

peter