On Monday, February 11, 2019 at 12:47:34 PM UTC-5, duane wrote:
On 11/02/2019 10:28 a.m., Joerg wrote:
On 2019-02-10 06:52, Duane wrote:
wrote:
On Saturday, February 9, 2019 at 7:56:22 PM UTC+1, Joerg wrote:
On 2019-02-09 09:52, wrote:


I learned pretty soon that paying more than $20 for a road bike tire is
a waste of money. In fact, they can be worse than expensive tires.
Similar for MTB tires.

That depends on your riding conditions and requirements. I ride on good
roads on my road bikes and get 4500 km out of a Continental 4000S(2)
rear
tire and expect the same from the 5000 so price is not that important..

Lou



I get about the same mileage and very few flats.Â* I think I’ve had one
flat
in the last 10,000km and that was a tube giving out when I hit a pothole
hard.Â* I ride on roads but I can’t say they’re always good roads.

Maybe Joerg is riding his road bike on single track carrying 4 gallons of
water or something...


No but lots of hills. That seems to cause a lot more rear tire wear than
riding in flat lands. Some roads aren't that great and some are unpaved
where the fancy expensive tires failed in their side walls too often.
For example, when I tested Gatorskins three out of four prematurely
failed with side wall damage. One actually blew a big hole out its side..
Vee Rubber tires and many others do much better in that domain. They are
more sturdy. So now I am buying those which has also brought a nice cost
reduction.


Use what you want but your experience is not my experience. I do a fair
bit of climbing and on some pretty crappy roads but I still get close to
5000km on a pair of Conti GPS 4000 tires. Works for me.

I too have no problems with my tires and I ride Northern Ontario Canada mining roads that are barely maintained and in a lot of places are like Joerg's roads. However, I do take care not to run over big sharp rocks if I can possible avoid it. Maybe the threat of having to walk for days to a road with motor traffic causes me to be a bit more careful of my bike and equipment? I'd hate to have to walk t0 of there pushing a bicycle simply because I did not want to ride a bit slower. Remember too that my bicycle there has about 40 pounds of gear on it. I carry a spare folding tire just in case but thus far in over 20 years have never needed to replace a tire when touring on those roads.

Joerg's world is different from anyone else's which is why he needs extra special stuff.

Cheers