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donquijote1954 wrote:
On Mar 4, 9:49 am, "Qui si parla Campagnolo"
wrote:
On Mar 3, 11:47 am, "donquijote1954"

wrote:

Hey, be smart. You are part of the solution, not part of the
problem.
And you save the buck. Dinosaurs are a thing of the past and
the
little furry animals are here to stay.
There are two versions of it...
bike:
http://www.zazzle.com/product/235847689274986069
and bus:
http://www.zazzle.com/product/235396990102826110
OK, how is the bus not polluting?

You don't see it everyday, but it's possible. Just some new
technologies and some political will to make it happen...

Heaven Help Bus
A visit to Iceland spurs dreams of a hydrogen future

The loneliness of the long-distance rider.I have seen the future,
and
it works.

The 111 bus rolls quietly up to the Mjodd terminal in eastern
Reykjavik at 11:19 a.m., and I climb aboard. For 45 minutes, we
cruise
through the suburbs and then to the central square downtown,
picking
up and discharging eight passengers along the way. Fuel cells
that
would have filled the space of several passenger seats five years
ago
are now small enough to fit in the roof panels. And out the
exhaust
pipe: a trickle of water.


http://www.grist.org/comments/soapbo...n-hydrogenbus/

I have a dream...that someday buses will not pollute. Actually we
could make it happen now much easier than having all the cars be
replaced with hybrid. Just change the fleet of buses to hydrogen
or
some other technologies out there.

We can make it happen with THE REVOLUTION. Coming soon...

Too optimistic. Somebody, somewhere is probably burning coal or oil
to
make the electricity to electrolyze the water to make the Hydrogen.
It only really works if the electricity comes from wind, solar,
hydro,
or, dare I say it, NUculear (Bush pronunciation).
Bill Baka

Anything which makes a bus more efficient would make a car even more
efficient than the bus. Right now transit buses waste fuel big
time.


"Who killed the electric car" would be a good movie for this thread.
I will never buy anything from GM. Wusses!



The public killed the electric car because lead-acid batteries are not
really of much use in today's world. But a plug-in hybrid would meet
the
needs of about 90% of American commuters.

If GM kept it it would have evolved because people were in love with it.
They crushed brand new cars and took them away from people who wanted to
pay
for them. They were under pressure from oil and car makers to scrap it
because it would have been the right thing at the right time. Gee where
have I heard that one before. There would be no war with the US either
if
they went that way.


Sorry. Lead-acid batteries will not hack it even with high gas prices.

Why are you still arguing about lead-acid batteries? I did not say that
did I?
The movie is about more than the technology at the time. Do you really
think a progressive company like that would try to put lead batteries on
the market today. FF to 2007 and look back at the wars since the movie. I
think it was before 911 also. Check it.