On Saturday, January 12, 2019 at 4:34:34 PM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
On Saturday, January 12, 2019 at 11:07:51 PM UTC, jbeattie wrote:
On Saturday, January 12, 2019 at 2:51:32 PM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
On Saturday, January 12, 2019 at 3:54:04 PM UTC, jbeattie wrote:
On Saturday, January 12, 2019 at 4:17:07 AM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
On Saturday, January 12, 2019 at 5:31:24 AM UTC, news18 wrote:

So, effectively, the USA surrendered [in Vietnam].

Oh, it's worse than that. In The Devil's Pleasure Palace, Michael Walsh made the case that the US wanted to lose that war. Other historians and philosophers have made the point that stopping the 20th century's wars, and into this century, too soon just guaranteed that one unfinished war would be the flash-point for the next one. Iraq and Afghanistan are the recent examples commonly cited. Paul Johnson wrote of the deplorable effects of Americans' small-town morality when real politik was required. Walsh fixes the blame for this defeatist inability to conduct wars to their necessary conclusion on the Frankfurt School and its Critical Theory. I've been calling them commiepinkofellowtravellers since the 1960's and their theory the stinking detritus of resentful Germans who didn't know how to behave as guests in someone else's house. The little Antifa fascists are their children, and the modern Democratic Party is driven by Critical Theory's foolish fallacies. Their whole thing is cultural Marxism and, like other sorts of Marxism, it is a suicide cult in which limp-dick defeatism pigeonholes nicely into the their huge cupboard full of omnidirectional hate for Western civilisation. You're a representative example of what Critical Theory has done to two generations now.

Well that explains everything! Meanwhile, North Vietnam did not surrender.

-- Jay Beattie.

What's your problem, Jay? I didn't say North Vietnam surrendered.

Just wanted to recap after the winding ride though commie-pinkos, Antifa, Germans who are poor house guests, omni-directional hate for Western civilization, cats and dogs, living together, etc. I think we're all in agreement that North Vietnam didn't surrender. Just trying to establish some common ground in these divisive times.

-- Jay Beattie.

I was addressing your ignorant anonymous friend, "news18" who wrote:
So, effectively, the USA surrendered [in Vietnam].
I don't see that my remarks have anything to do with whether North Vietnam surrendered.

Andre Jute
I keep wondering if we're speaking the same English

Remember it's Beattie.