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Old July 4th 19, 07:55 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Andre Jute[_2_]
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Default The American Fascist Party can't all be cyclists!

Jay Beattie is in jocular mood:
If you're going to be Mr. Portland pundit, you better learn the players. It's like a bad opera. https://www.wweek.com/news/2019/03/1...ain-publicity/


-- Jay Beattie


Forsooth, I will not. I have better fish to fry, and I'm hungry.

Andre Jute
Pity about Portland. Up the Willamette Valley is beautiful.

On Thursday, July 4, 2019 at 4:12:43 AM UTC+1, jbeattie wrote:
On Wednesday, July 3, 2019 at 5:04:49 PM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
On Wednesday, July 3, 2019 at 9:15:25 PM UTC+1, jbeattie wrote:
On Wednesday, July 3, 2019 at 11:53:05 AM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 7:14:53 AM UTC-7, Zen Cycle wrote:
On Monday, July 1, 2019 at 8:53:13 PM UTC-4, Andre Jute wrote:
See https://www.nationalreview.com/corne...lands-anti-fa/ about the police-assisted fascisti who call themselves Anti-Fa in Portland beating up a gay Asian journalist.

Andre Jute
Disgusted at the Antifa's racism

Still hoping for another krystalnacht when your "proud boys" are allowed to run amok with impunity, eh Andre? Or maybe you would just like to see people passively sit and 'turn the other cheek' like when Dylan Roof performed his act of heroism on that unsuspecting elder black prayer circle.. Face it, you're just ****ed because people are actively fighting back against your attempts at suppression/oppression. Ngo was an active supporter of the 'proud boys', and had published Islamophobic screeds. He may be gay and asian, but you know you're actually being quite dishonest when you suggested he was targeted for that. Meanwhile, the rants on your side of "jews will not replace us" go completely unmentioned by you.

Zencycle
Disgusted at Jute's hypocrisy.

The Antifa are the SAME people as Hitler's brownshirts and they should be treated as such. I would have had a different reaction than some journalist who was doing nothing but reporting what was going on.

Believe me Zen - if you were to make your comments to my face you would only do it once.

If you're going to the play, at least read the program. The Brownshirts are the Proud Boys and Patriot Prayer. Antifa are the Bolsheviks. Its Fascists versus Communists. Antifa has no interest in racial purity or ultra-nationalism. If anything, they trend more towards Anarchism, which is another group of guys and gals with black bandannas and apparently short attention spans, because I don't see them much anymore.


-- Jay Beattie.


Eh? Unless I somehow missed that the Proud Boys (of whom I heard for the first time today) and Patriot Prayer (whoever they may be) are queer, that is an analogy so far into imprecision even Slow Johnny would be proud of it. See, Ernst Roehm's brownshirts were disruptive socialists well to the left of Hitler's (blackshirted) national socialists -- and their leadership was homosexual*, which is one reason (the main one was that Army leadership, which Hitler needed to consolidate his power, despised the "degenerate" Roehm, who stood in the way of the stability the Army demanded) why Hitler murdered them on the weekend of 30 June 1934.

I'm just putting that down for the precision of the historical record. For myself, I see zero difference between Hitler's Nazi Party and Joe Stalin's Communist Party, or between their leaders, or their philosophies, such as they were.

*Current pundits, especially the empty suits on television, seem to think Americans invented homosexuality as a driver of party and intra-party politics. Clearly not so.


If you're going to be Mr. Portland pundit, you better learn the players. It's like a bad opera. https://www.wweek.com/news/2019/03/1...ain-publicity/

-- Jay Beattie

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