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Old November 26th 20, 02:47 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
JNugent[_12_]
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Default Near Miss of the Day 501: HGV driver said he had to cut cornerbecause of fast oncoming traffic

On 25/11/2020 21:41, TMS320 wrote:

On 25/11/2020 15:54, JNugent wrote:
On 25/11/2020 10:42, TMS320 wrote:
On 24/11/2020 16:32, JNugent wrote:


Does the law *require* a lorry-driver, or any other motor-vehicle
user, to give his or her name and address to any passing cyclist who
peremptorily and officiously demands it?


Did the cyclist peremptorily and officiously demand it?


Any such unauthorised request is peremptory and officious.


Read my question again. The answer is either 'yes' or 'no'.


The cyclist's requiring of, or expecting, the name and address (or other
"contact details" if you insist) of a lorry driver he passed in the
street was automatically peremptory and officious.

In the circumstances as described, he was not entitled to that
information and neither did he have a need for it, credible or
otherwise. Only a police officer has the lawful power to demand a name
and address of a person who happens to be using the highway and police
officers usually have more important things to do than require the names
and addresses (sorry, "contact details") of random passers-by.

Of course, as per usual, you have recerted to your normal MO of snipping
the relevant context.

Here is the section in question:

QUOTE:
Secret_squirrel writes: ... “When I challenged him on his driving, he
replied that his view had been blocked by the silver deflectors on his
wing (SIC) mirrors, and that he had to turn quickly as the oncoming
traffic tended to be fast. After exchanging a few more words, he left
without leaving any contact details.”
ENDQUOTE

Clearly, Secret Squirrel "thinks" that he had a right to the information
he sought and of whose absence he complains. That he didn't officiously
and peremptorily demand it during the exchange of "a few ... words" is
simply not credible.

But you seem to believe it.

But apart from that, whether or not asked for his contact details (and
irrespective of how the request might have been framed), was the driver
*required* to give them?

Think before you answer.

It's what you've been trying to argue about, even though you don't seem
to have realised it.
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