On Thu, 22 Feb 2018 12:50:45 -0500, Frank Krygowski
wrote:

On 2/22/2018 12:31 PM, sms wrote:
On 2/22/2018 8:06 AM, Joerg wrote:

That is correct. When neighbors hear about Green Valley Road and my
suggestion to join me for a ride the reactions are between "No" and
"Hell no!". When it's trucking the bikes to a trail head the answer is
often an enthusiastic "Yes". Trucking is something I personally do not
like, I prefer to ride from the garage and not use a car at all if
possible.

+1. While on occasion we do put the bikes on the car, we greatly prefer
not to do that. When it's unbearably hot in Silicon Valley we'll often
go ride our favorite 40 mile coastal ride from Seaside, through
Monterey, Pacific Grove, Pebble Beach, and Carmel, and we do drive there.

Those are the cold hard facts and sticking the head in the sand about
them isn't helpful. Yet that's what some folks do. Luckily few enough
that smart city leaders aren't influenced much by them.

LOL. Could you attend one of our City Council meetings and say that? We
are pretty lucky in my city. We have three people that tend to vote
based on facts when it comes to most issues, two engineers and one
attorney. It's sometimes hard when you hear emotional pleas that have no
basis in fact, especially when they come from your neighbors and from
people you've known for decades whose kids went to school with your
kids, etc..

Emotional pleas like "Riding a bike is so dangerous!" and "We need bike
lanes everywhere" and "You shouldn't ride any time, day or night, unless
you have super-bright lights on your bike"?

As an idle bit of information, to build a bike lane system in the U.S.
that is in proportion to that in The Netherlands, would require the
construction of 1,000,000 miles of bike path.
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Cheers,

John B.