On 2018-02-24 14:51, jbeattie wrote:
On Saturday, February 24, 2018 at 11:57:38 AM UTC-8, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-02-23 10:01, Tim McNamara wrote:
On Mon, 19 Feb 2018 08:29:16 -0800, Joerg
wrote:
On 2018-02-18 14:21, Tim McNamara wrote:
Since stopping racing, though, I've converted everything back
to DT shifters. I use a handlebar bag on two of my bikes and
the extra cables interfere with that. Since I'm not racing,
the minor inconvenience of reaching down to shift is a moot
point for me. Plus- maybe this is a function of my
generation- I prefer the looks of DT shifters due to the
reduced cables sticking out the front. Once we have wireless
shifters that are reliable, ...
Then one sunny day it don't shift no more and the display
bluntly scrolls "An irrecoverable error has occurred. Please
can 1-800 ..." :-)
LOL! Funny because it's true. "Hang on, dudes, I have to reboot
my bike."
Almost. IIRC a guy had to bring his bike back to the shop because
new software had to be loaded to cure some suboptimal shifting
behavior. In the good old days pliers, wrenches and 15 minutes in
the garage sufficed, as it does on all my current bikes.
I'd rather upgrade software than have to toss out a POS
friction-shifting derailleur like an old Campy Rally or a lot of the
Simplex. Many derailleurs were suboptimal out of the box back in the
supposed golden era of cycling. And it's not like DT friction
shifters were immune from problems. SIS levers failed a lot.
Maybe I was lucky all those decades of my life. When I was young our
parents bought us catalog store bikes, the equivalent of what would be
Sears in the US. Those were bargain-basement road bikes. The shifters
worked great. Same on all those cheap department store road bikes I had
as a student. I wore out about one bike per year and the shifters and
derailers were never an issue. Same today, Deore XT on the MTB and ye
olde Shimano 600EX on the road bike.
The old MTB has Alivio where they messed up with the grease they put in
the shifter lever assemblies (gunks up and hardens fast). After flushing
all that out and using Tri-Flow oil it works great.
The only time derailers fail is on the MTB when they are hit by a
sizeable rock and get bent. I assume a Di2 derailer would suffer there
as well, except when it gets whacked one might not always be able to
hammer in back to working order out in the field.
I just got back from a ride on my UDi2 equipped Synapse -- which is
my fast rain bike. Worked like a charm. However, if I hadn't gotten
the bike with a crash-replacement discount and insurance money, I
wouldn't have bought Di2. The price differential is not worth it to
me. Cable STI works beautifully, although with the bizarre internal
cable routing these days, it can be a little stiff shifting on some
bikes.
Since my two main bikes have a big central battery I could probably use
Di2 without ever worrying about running out of juice. However, given
that the Shimano mechanical stuff works great I don't see a need, plus I
like the very fast shift across have a dozen cogs that the friction
shifter on my road bike affords.
--
Regards, Joerg
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