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Old March 4th 14, 09:52 PM posted to rec.bicycles.soc
EdwardDolan
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Default The Joys & Pleasures of Cycling on Trails

"Blackblade" wrote in message ...

All recreations have to be managed sensibly ... but that means

pragmatic solutions to individual circumstances ... not messianic proclamations
!


Edward Dolan wrote:

If recreations are sufficiently different from one another,
there is absolutely no way to combine them. Each recreation needs it own trails.
That is the "pragmatic solution" which is apparent to all but the blind, deaf
and dumb mountain bikers.


Why Ed ? There is no reason whatsoever why most trails can't be shared. Sharing works fine in most places. The videos you posted show the completely ridiculous nature of your position; you would advocate creating new trails when those videos clearly show that the existing ones are very lightly trafficked with hardly any conflict.


It doesn’t matter if trails are lightly trafficked or heavily trafficked. The users are doing different things which conflict. I have posted many reports in this thread which clearly illustrate the conflicts in great detail. These reports contradict your views but you are deaf and blind to what hikers insist upon – that trails be used for the quiet enjoyment of nature and not as a race course by cyclists.

Ed, YOU posted these links. Are they not representative of

reality now ? If so, why did you post them ?

The thousands of videos that you will see on YouTube are
representative. I no long bother looking at them they are so g.d.
idiotic.


You are going in circles. You posted videos then decided you didn't like what they showed so you want to refer to some amorphous 'other' ones on YouTube. Your case is completely shot. Why do you keep posting 'evidence' that doesn't support your propositions ?


Whatever is posted on this thread by me must be taken in context. It is the preponderance of the posts that matter, not any particular post about any particular aspect. I do not do any editing of the reports I post. Every post of mine in this thread is detrimental in the main to the issue of bikes on trails. That is all that matters to me. Either get on something important or get lost.

What bit of "stop within the distance you can see to be clear" was

unclear Ed ? If the sightline is practically nil then the speed needs to
be that much slower. If it's a long way ahead then speed can be much
higher. Simple.

Nothing is ever simple when you have testosterone prone
mountain bikers hogging the trails.


Ah, and back to ad hominem attacks rather than facts. I would also note that, bereft testosterone, the human race would have died out. You do sound like a rather bitter old man; did you never live a little when younger ?


There is a place for testosterone and it is NOT on trails used by hikers. Take your testosterone elsewhere ... like maybe to a battlefield.

Oh do stop going in circles ... it's very tiresome. I've

addressed this issue ad nauseum. If power, speed, weight, noise and
environmental damage differences between powered trail bikes and mountain bikes
are not obvious to you then you need glasses and a hearing aid.


If power, speed, weight, noise and environmental damage differences between
mountain bikes and people walking are not obvious to you then you need glasses
and a hearing aid. The only tiresome bore here is you.


Power; exactly the same (1 human power = approx 750 watts max)

Speed; Approximately 2x on average
Weight; Approx 15% higher for biker
Noise; equivalent
Environmental impact; equivalent

The facts, as usual, don't support you Ed.


Your facts are as screwy as your morality. Mechanical advantage makes all the difference with respect to power and speed. Noise and environmental impact also are NOT the same as anyone with half a brain knows full well.

Mountain bikers are barbarians and have no right to be on any trail used by hikers – unless they want to get off their god damn ****ing bikes and walk like everyone else. When they crash and injure themselves, I rejoice! If and when they manage to kill themselves, I say good riddance to bad rubbish! Death to mountain bikers!

“Tread softly! All the earth is holy ground.”
~ Christina Rossetti (Psalm 24),
from "A Later Life: A Double Sonnet of Sonnets"

Mountain bikes have wheels. Wheels are for roads.

Trails are for walking. What’s the matter? Can’t walk?

Ed Dolan the Great
aka
Saint Edward the Great


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