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Old March 14th 18, 02:24 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Default New bike path

On 3/13/2018 4:09 PM, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-03-13 13:41, jbeattie wrote:
On Tuesday, March 13, 2018 at 12:58:11 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-03-13 12:23, jbeattie wrote:
On Tuesday, March 13, 2018 at 7:36:16 AM UTC-7, Joerg
wrote:


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Scramento has a huge homeless problem and especially so
along
the American River bike path. To the point where it isn't
always safe riding there anymore. It is largely a homemade
problem. The mayor they have now doesn't understand
that with
all his throwing moeny and resources at this he is
enticing
ever more homeless to move to Sacramento. Free stuff!
When he
started this I could notice a substantial drop in the
number of
homeless I see along the El Dorado Trail yet the guy
does not
get it.

I've been buying bus tickets to Sacramento for the dudes
camped
along our giant MUP, the Springwater Corridor. I'm glad
to see
its paying off -- that and the periodic "sweeps."
http://pamplinmedia.com/go/42-news/3...ingwater-sweep




I was riding back from the Gorge on Sunday and cut over on
the 205
bike path and hit a spot under an over-pass where I
could barely
squeeze by all the tents -- and garbage and needles,
etc., etc.
F****** incredible pigsty.

Let me know if you come up with a solution. I sure
don't have
one -- at least one that doesn't sound like something
out of the
Old Testament, or perhaps a modern book on recycling
organic
matter.


The solution would be our country becoming more
conservative. Work
requirements for welfare, less unconditional free stuff,
and so on.
The difference in the rate of homelessness in liberal versus
conservative states is striking and Oregon looks worse
than even
California (which I hadn't thought was possible).

http://nlihc.org/article/ten-highest...ess-state-2012




Nevada is kind of an exception, probably because a lot of
hermits and
loners live there. They chose that lifestyle and the low
amount of
regulations and little enforcement allows them to spend
their days
baking in a dilapidated trailer out in the desert.


This map gives Oregon better numbers:
https://www.usich.gov/tools-for-action/map/#fn[]=1500&fn[]=2900&fn[]=6100&fn[]=10100&fn[]=14100&all_types=true&year=2017



It doesn't. Oregon has about 10% of inhabintants versus
California so its homeless rate is higher. But only
slightly. California is quite bad in that domain, as
evidenced during most of my bike rides.



The other solution is to starve the beast (big
government). High
tax states make housing so expensive that too many people
are
forced to drop out into the streets. California is a
prime example
of that. Try getting a building permit out here, let
alone pay for
it. Socialism does not work.


Hmmm. Referring to my map, how do you explain Texas and
Florida --
or even Pennsylvania?


Simple: You need to look at the total population and then
divide the number of homeless by that. Texas has almost the
number of inhabitants as California but only a fraction of
our number of homeless.

Same with Florida. Half the number of people as in
California but less than a quarter of our homeless.


You're not going to "tough love" a bunch of schizophrenics
or drug
addled or brain injured people into getting work. You just
push them
further into criminality or they do nothing and die off
due to
starvation or exposure.



We have to take a look at how states with a much lower
homeless percentage do it. They usually have a much less
generous welfare system and that is part of the reason. The
other is smaller government, lower taxes and thus more
affordable housing. You can buy the same kind of house for
half in Texas versus California.

Not all homeless are druggies. The topper so far was a
homeless man whom I gave some money. It was in Washington
D.C., he was well-mannered, a bit dirty but wore an old
suit, with tie!


I mean those are options.



Sure, but out-of-control welfare isn't. Neither is
legalizing marijuana which will backfire, big time.


https://www.theguardian.com/society/...ortland-oregon


But, for some reason, those options tend to turn people
off. Bunch
of snowflakes! What we need is a longer snow season!


That's the problem, there are shelters but often homeless do
not use them. One thing shelters must do though is to also
provide for their animals. Nobody would go into a shelter
and leave their dog to die outside in a snow storm. I know
you don't hold dogs in high regard but other people do, just
as I do.



When you get your California temps down to minus 21F the
problem may resolve itself:

http://www.inforum.com/content/homel...aused-exposure

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