On Sunday, August 4, 2019 at 6:12:17 PM UTC-4, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Sunday, August 4, 2019 at 6:06:16 PM UTC-4, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On Sunday, August 4, 2019 at 2:24:17 PM UTC-4, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Saturday, August 3, 2019 at 7:47:21 PM UTC-4, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 8/3/2019 1:09 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Saturday, August 3, 2019 at 12:13:14 PM UTC-4, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 8/3/2019 11:54 AM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:

VBEG We all know you're extremely anti-helmet. LOL

I'm actually for honesty, for truthful presentation of data, and for
individual choice.

If I were anti-helmet, I'd be working to outlaw them. It would be
parallel to the helmeteers efforts to outlaw riding bikes without helmets.

Is there a mandatory helmet law where you live? (I believe so.) Which
side is imposing its will on the other side?

Wrong again Frank. There's no mandatory helmet law where I live.

Really? I thought you lived in Ontario.

From Wikipedia:
"The use of bicycle helmets is compulsory in the provinces of British
Columbia, New Brunswick, Newfoundland and Labrador, Nova Scotia, and
Prince Edward Island.[12] In the provinces of Alberta, Manitoba, and
Ontario, the use of helmets is mandatory for cyclists under the age of
18 years of age.[13][14][15][16]"

Perhaps you're unaware of the law? If so, perhaps you should read up
before arguing.


Last time I looked this is rec.BICYCLES.tech not rec.pedestrians.tech or
rec.car.tech. Therefore most of us who talk about helmets here are
talking about helmets as they pertain to BICYCLING.

If that's how you feel, you should have taken your "smash a melon"
helmet promoting argument to rec.melons.tech, or some other such newsgroup.

Why are so many people so dedicated to claiming that only _bicyclists_
should (or must) wear helmets, as if bicycling has tremendous brain
injury risk? Do those people not understand the numbers? Or, like the
laws, do those people just not bother to examine them?

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- Frank Krygowski

I'm over 18 thus there is NO mandatory helmet law for me.

I'm aware of that. But your statement was "There's no mandatory helmet law
where I live." That was clearly false. You should admit it.

There is a MHL in Ontario, but due largely to the efforts of a guy I happen to
correspond with, the law was amended so it doesn't apply to adults.

I'm quite sure that if the issue had been left up to you, the Ontario MHL
would indeed apply to adults.

- Frank Krygowski

BULL****! Frank. You do NOT know what I think!

The issue isn't so much what you think, Sir. It's what you did - or more
precisely, what you didn't do.

The person I'm alluding to was part of a lobbying group that worked hard against
an adult MHL for Ontario. The bill as originally written mandated helmets for
ALL bicyclists at ALL times, just as do the MHLs in British Columbia, New
Brunswick, Nova Scotia, PEI etc. The lobbying group in Ontario (largely led
by my friend) managed to convince legislators that adults should be allowed
to gasp! decide for themselves.

Now, Sir, were you part of that group? Did you contact your legislators? What
_did_ you do to allow freedom of choice?

I suspect you did nothing. I suspect that at the time, you were still arguing
ferociously in favor of helmets, using nonsense like "the melon test." IOW, if
the issue had been left up to you, the Ontario MHL would indeed apply to adults.

- Frank Krygowski