On 11/1/2017 10:22 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On Wednesday, November 1, 2017 at 7:59:58 PM UTC-4, AMuzi wrote:
On 11/1/2017 5:41 PM, Doug Landau wrote:

HR lady does not see herself as less valuable in the selection process than the manager or teammates... in fact, the other way around. She thinks she is a professional in her field just like the engineers and the manager are in theirs, and should be an equal player in the process. In fact she sees herself as more insightful into people and personalities than the social zeros that the manager and engineers are, and therefore her responsibility to shepherd them a bit, and compensate for their inability to see who's "a fit with the company" like she can.

There is nobody in the organization that I think less of than HR lady.


Bad enough but an ex who is a college instructor reports
that the hiring committees of small colleges are made up of
staff who are ex HR ladies.

It obviously varies from school to school. I've seen almost total faculty
control of qualification requirements, department faculty rating all
applications, choosing whom to interview, ranking those who made it as far as
the interview, etc. There was input from HR on things like wording of
advertisements (you've gotta say you won't discriminate), there were rules
like if a rejected candidate was a minority or veteran, you had to fill out
a form to explain the rejection. And final hiring decisions come from above.

But overall, department faculty had very significant influence on the entire
process. Which was good, because it helps if a new hire is someone respected
by the faculty.

- Frank Krygowski


Once, yes.
In today's "higher" education industry, administration has
staff numbers and dollars which dwarf mere faculty.

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