On 2018-06-11 11:35, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 6/11/2018 1:16 PM, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-06-11 09:36, jbeattie wrote:

... Plus, for road riding, ordinary rim
brakes are fine.


As long as it does not rain or hail hard, then they are the pits.

Oh, Gawd.

I and my club mates don't live in a desert. Everyone in our club has
used rim brakes since they started cycling, and all but a very few still
do. We've ridden in countless rains, from showers to thunderstorms,
countless miles. I've been club safety chairman for decades and I hear
about the crashes. I've never heard of one caused by inadequate braking
in the rain. Never.

This is a non-issue for almost all road cyclists. It's the current big
"you _gotta_ have this!" item for the bike industry, so they can churn
bike inventory. But in real life, it's no more necessary than magic
daytime blinkies or funny plastic hats or aerodynamic sunglasses.


You obviously are not a real all-weather rider. With all-weather I mean
including full-bore hail storms, downhill and no shelter until you get
to the next tunnel. Sure one can manage, I did by letting the brakes rub
a bit all the time. Which is really healthy for the rims. With discs I
simply do not have to concern myself with this, they always work.

Rim braking is a technology they used in the days of the chuck wagon and
that's where it belongs.


... I prefer discs in the rain, which was all my riding
this weekend. Braking was the least of my concerns. I was much more
worried about traction, particularly after a long dry spell.


When I saw a stand of poison oak at the last second on Friday I was
sure glad I had powerful disc brakes. I still did brush against some
and have a slight rash here and there but with weaker brakes that
would have been a different story.

Horrors!

"Only disc brakes can save you from itching!!!"


I guess you never had poison oak rash. I had it half a dozen times,
sometimes it looked like my lower arms would die off.


Last year it was a bit more drastic, same singletrack. Saw a big fat
rattlesnake at the last second. Whew. If you can't brake hard there it
could mean weeks of misery and thousands in co-pay for the expensive
antivenom.

Is this another Joergian game of "Worst Case Scenario"??


No, it happened in real life, on the El Dorado Trail about 2mi north of
Latrobe, CA. It was a big old full size rattler.

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Regards, Joerg

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