On Sep 11, 8:36 am, "Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com"
wrote:
On Sep 11, 5:15 am, wrote:

I'm upgrading the drivetrain of my '85 Mondonico to Campy 10 speed. I
have a very recent Record 10 speed double crank, and the frame has
Italian (duhh!) threading, and I know it needs a 102 mm spindle.

There aren't many BB choices, but still ... should I get Record?
Chorus? Token? Phil? Light weight is significant but more important
is durability, especially when higher cost seens to get lower
durability, as with a Record.

Record has a lighter spindle than Chorus, otherwise idential in terms
of bearings. The durability with Record and Chorus is the same since
same bearings. Phil is a nice unit and as Record/Chorus BBs get a wee
bit scarce(more expensive), Phil becomes a nice choice..what I have on
my rain bike.



Is this durability concern just a smokescreen? I won't be racing the
bike and I'm not hard on things. Sometimes I pedal hard enought to
flex the BB but not usually. I'm certainly not a sprint monster.

See above.



I'm tending toward a Chorus or a Token, mainly due to price and
weight. But if there's no liability to putting in a Record I might
get a low-mile used one if I believe I found one.

See above..NO difference in durability between Record and Chorus(never
heard of Token)..don't know ehere this info comes from. NOT in our
expoerience at all.



What about Token durability? Does everything fit right relative to
original Campy? Is there an extra benfit, perhaps chainline
adjustment?

Get the Phil iffa ya want chainline adjustment.





You get my drift!

Ken- Hide quoted text -

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The "charges" against the Record come from a few posts on
Bikeforums.net. I don't have an axe to grind, I just want a light,
slick reliable set of gear. I can forward some of the info back-
channel if you want to get into it.

Thanks for all the info, but any experience with Token BBs?
Specifically in terms of fit and durability? Are they truly
compatible with Campy? Token is offerred on Ebay by an ebay store.
Again, I can get you the reference if you like.

Chainline adjust, even though I mentioned it, is a low priority for me
since the frame chainlines correctly with its original Shimano 600
gruppo, and it's getting an alignment check along with its cold-
setting, done by an expert. It will be in line when I do the build.
I'll get either Doug Fattic, Ron Boi, or Franklin Frames to do the
work unless anyone has another good suggestion for the Michigan/
Northern Midwest area.

Ken