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Old December 10th 10, 06:53 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
DirtRoadie
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Default Bicyclist Fatalities in AZ 2009

On Dec 10, 9:44*am, Duane Hébert wrote:
On 12/10/2010 11:38 AM, DirtRoadie wrote:





On Dec 9, 11:33 pm, Frank *wrote:
On Dec 9, 1:28 pm, *wrote:


I have some questions for Frank.


As I understand, in a 10-foot wide lane (no shoulder), with an 8.5-foot wide
truck behind you, you'd ride in the middle of the lane. *This would put you 5
feet from the right edge.


Where would you ride if there was no vehicle behind you?


What if instead of a big truck, it was a small car or a motorcycle behind you?


First, if there is no vehicle behind me, my road position is
determined by other things.


You mean that *ALL the surrounding circumstances come into play?
What a concept!


That's a good point - the specifics of what's further right affect
things. *A dropoff "ledge" at the pavement's edge will push me further
left, too.


Again, *ALL the surrounding circumstances come into play.
What was so hard about acknowledging that in the first place Frank?


Frank seemed to have great trouble with this concept when he first
proposed his hypothetical. And he had to subsequently impose a curb
and a sidewalk on all those who were pointing out that ALL the


I think the sidewalk was installed exclusively for my benefit.
That way he can tell me what a coward I am because I would jump on the
sidewalk before being turned into ground meat.


Don't you wish you could get governmental entities to respond so
quickly with infrastructure?

The sidewalk thing is interesting, especially with the "taking into
account all surrounding circumstances" theme. There is a bridge here I
ride across regularly where the sidewalk IS the simple way to stay out
of traffic. The particular sidewalk section is also incorporated as a
portion of a 7 mile riverfront all purpose trail. And (in contrast to
the bridge JB described) it's wide enough for opposing bike/
pedestrian traffic to pass. I don't "bail out" onto the sidewalk,
that's usually where I ride.
Just a further example of how foolish Frank is with his tunnel vision
and "control" obsession.

DR
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