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Old May 24th 18, 12:01 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
JBeattie
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On Wednesday, May 23, 2018 at 1:23:48 PM UTC-7, Emanuel Berg wrote:
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[1] https://www.fahrradmanufaktur.de/en/...andonneur-2017


Looks like a loaded touring bike to me. Those are
sold in the USA and everywhere in the world. To me
randonneur means something very special and
specific. Randonneuring is long distance cycling,
200 to 1200km, in a specific time limit. You carry
minimal gear to make it through the ride. NO ONE
uses a loaded touring bike like you linked to for
randonneuring. Look at the bikes used on Paris Brest
Paris, the original randonneur ride, and you will
not see any loaded touring bikes. The bike you
linked would be used on round the world tours
carrying four panniers, handlebar bag, and tent
piled on top of the rear rack. A heavy loaded
touring bike. If that is what you want, then just do
a simple search for loaded touring bikes.


The bike has the word "randonneur" in it's designation
which is French and translates to long distance.

The bike, if I could afford it, would be packed with
some 10-12 kg of dry bags with a Trangia, a sleeping
mat, a sleeping bag, a tent, toilet stuff, some books,
maps, and tools, and a couple of other things.

What is the difference between touring and
randonneuring? Touring is shorter? How/why would this
impact the bike? I say the bike in the URL could be
used for touring as well, and actually most everyday
biking, and why not?

It is just a solid steel frame with fenders, lots of
gears, some comfort to the geometry and tires, and
racks to hang luggage onto. Unpacked, most people in
the city wouldn't notice anything special about it.


There are zillions of worthy touring bikes. Half the Soma range fits the bills, and for complete bikes, you can get uber adventure bikes from mundane places like REI. https://tinyurl.com/yat8eze6 Or a touring bike from Trek, Cannondale, Fuji and on and on. Go to Performance and get a dopey retro Fuji touring bike. https://www.performancebike.com/shop...e-2018-31-8654 9sp bar-end shifters will last forever, and if the frame breaks in the middle of nowhere, the local chieftains can weld it back together because they all have MIG kits in their huts. Even cheaper at Nashbar. https://www.bikenashbar.com/cycling/...ing-bike-nb-tr


IMO, the only difference between a 200K-300K ride and a brevet is the format of the ride. You don't need cargo capacity for a ride of that length. If you're comfortable on a racing bike for the distance, ride that. Personally, I would hate to drag some steel pig around for 200-300K. The last 200K or 200 mile ride I did was on a racing bike.

I wouldn't want to ride more than 200-300K because I have other things to do, like sleep. I don't get the whole 1600K brevet thing, but then again, I'm old and decrepit and like to be home at night drinking.

-- Jay Beattie.



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