On Friday, June 10, 2016 at 10:54:03 AM UTC-4, Duane wrote:
On 10/06/2016 10:28 AM, Joerg wrote:
On 2016-06-07 21:56, Sir Ridesalot wrote:



"KALAMAZOO COUNTY, Mich. (NEWSCHANNEL 3) - Newschannel 3 has learned
that at least five people have been killed on North Westnedge, near
Markin Glen Park, just north of Kalamazoo, after a group of
bicyclists were struck from behind by a blue Chevy pickup truck.

It happened around 6:30 p.m. Tuesday evening.

All of those killed were bicyclists riding down the road when a
pickup truck came up behind them, and struck the group."

More here

http://wwmt.com/news/local/multiple-...illed-in-crash

Condolences to the victims' families and friends.


Very sad.

One question is whether we will ever hear the results of the
investigation. Such as lane positions, lighting of the riders,
visibility, level of intoxication of the driver, speed of the truck, and
so on.

Without such follow-up it's hard to learn from these case. I have even
seen people flat-out deny that it was a non-intersection lane case in a
similar deadly crash here in Sacramento. No follow-up info as usual,
zero, but it all points to a cyclist having been in the left lane (two
per direction) preparing to turn off somewhere when a drunk driver in a
truck smashed into her and killed her.


Read the report. It was not an intersection and they were apparently on
the shoulder.

This has nothing to do with lane position or bike lanes or cycling
classes or anything to do with the cyclists. This has to do with some
asshole murdering 5 people and injuring several more who were just
riding their bikes. The only question to me is whether it was
intentional (1st degree murder) or not (second degree murder), otherwise
the rest is irrelevant.

What is there to learn here? Maybe if it was drunk driving and the guy
had priors or maybe if the guy was psychotic and off his meds. But from
the riders' points of view what is there to learn?

Not to mention that this blue truck and driver had been reported a number of times that day for very erratic driving prior to it crashung into those 9 bicyclists. From variious reports i read it wouldn't have mattered where those bicyclist were riding since the truck was all over the road. One guy nearlycoming out of a store or building nearly got hit just seconds before the bicyclists got hit.

Cheers