On Wed, 23 May 2018 22:23:46 +0200, Emanuel Berg
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writes:

[1] https://www.fahrradmanufaktur.de/en/...andonneur-2017


Looks like a loaded touring bike to me. Those are
sold in the USA and everywhere in the world. To me
randonneur means something very special and
specific. Randonneuring is long distance cycling,
200 to 1200km, in a specific time limit. You carry
minimal gear to make it through the ride. NO ONE
uses a loaded touring bike like you linked to for
randonneuring. Look at the bikes used on Paris Brest
Paris, the original randonneur ride, and you will
not see any loaded touring bikes. The bike you
linked would be used on round the world tours
carrying four panniers, handlebar bag, and tent
piled on top of the rear rack. A heavy loaded
touring bike. If that is what you want, then just do
a simple search for loaded touring bikes.

The bike has the word "randonneur" in it's designation
which is French and translates to long distance.

The bike, if I could afford it, would be packed with
some 10-12 kg of dry bags with a Trangia, a sleeping
mat, a sleeping bag, a tent, toilet stuff, some books,
maps, and tools, and a couple of other things.

What is the difference between touring and
randonneuring? Touring is shorter? How/why would this
impact the bike? I say the bike in the URL could be
used for touring as well, and actually most everyday
biking, and why not?

It is just a solid steel frame with fenders, lots of
gears, some comfort to the geometry and tires, and
racks to hang luggage onto. Unpacked, most people in
the city wouldn't notice anything special about it.

To add to my previous post, you might want to look at a Race across
America as the ultimate long distance bike - some 3,000 miles (4,800
Km. as fast as you can make it - yet it probably doesn't fit the
randonneuring description very well.
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Cheers,

John B.