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Old March 11th 11, 08:30 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Mrcheerful[_2_]
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Dex wrote:
On 11/03/2011 07:56, Mrcheerful wrote:
Dex wrote:
On 11/03/2011 07:08, Mrcheerful wrote:
Dex wrote:
On 11/03/2011 06:52, Mrcheerful wrote:
Dex wrote:
On 10/03/2011 09:34, Mrcheerful wrote:
Dex wrote:
On 10/03/2011 07:11, Mrcheerful wrote:
Nuxx Bar wrote:
Cyclist hit head on by car, looks bloody painful:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvJBNiEVSug

Incidents like that are belittled by people like Jackson who
go out with their helmet cams looking for trouble.

riding faster than the conditions dictate and probably no
signal, both cyclist and car at fault.



What a load of bull, the conditions couldn't have been much
better, bright clear day, dry road, nothing in front of him,
probably nothing behind.

The cyclist was already level with the mini-roundabout when
the car crossed the line, so no time for 'signalling',
whatever signal means your taking the second exit, and no
time to slow down. Why must you always lay part of the blame
on the innocent party just because they don't have an engine?

That motorist was either not paying attention and didn't see
the cyclist or somehow assumed the cyclist was taking the 1st
exit without bothering to signal.

The driver of the black car on the other side of the road
pulled out because he was expecting him to give way to the
cyclist. 100% the drivers fault.

I come across similar circumstances almost every day, yet I
don't crash into them. People make mistakes, they misjudge
which exit you are taking, that is just part of using the
roads.


Nope. There are THOUSANDS of accidents on our roads due to this
type of behaviour, how many of them got the blame for the other
party pulling out in front of them?


If the cyclist had been taking sufficient
care the crash would not have occurred,



remember your highway code for thinking and braking distances
when trying to stop.

I am glad to see you agree that the cyclist was travelling too
fast for the situation.



Oh right... Do you slow down to 10 mph when coming to a junction
when a car is waiting to pull out, just to be on the safe side?


Didn't think so.

We are talking about a vulnerable cyclist at a mini roundabout, he
should slow to whatever speed is the safe one for the situation. It is
better to be a little late in this world than early in the
next. What is the point of being injured unnecessarily?


Using that logic means making the max speed limit in towns 10mph. Or
better still, a man walking in front of you waving a red flag...

Everybody has a right to expect others to follow the rules, whether
it's being more observant and not pulling out when you're not
supposed to, or not stepping onto a fast busy road whilst listening
to a MP3 player.


everyone has a duty to protect themselves and others.


Then go buy an assault rifle to protect your loved ones from burglars.


I actually was referring to using the roads: we have a moral duty to
protect ourselves and others from harm. The cyclist could have avoided harm
by more careful riding. Almost every crash can be avoided if all parties
take sufficient care, it is when several take insufficient care at the same
point that the crashes happen. There is no point having an 'I am in the
right' attitude on the roads, especially if you are very vulnerable.

When approaching road hazards use the IPSGA system. The cyclist in the clip
did not get past I (information)


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