On Sunday, September 9, 2018 at 9:41:45 PM UTC+1, wrote:
On Sunday, September 9, 2018 at 10:10:18 AM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
On Sunday, September 9, 2018 at 4:45:39 PM UTC+1, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 9/9/2018 2:31 AM, John B. Slocomb wrote:

or another and reports from autopsies of cyclists killed in accidents
showed that (in New York) as many as 21% had been drinking (

Year after year, it's been consistently shown that a quarter of dead
bicyclists have been drinking.

John's "as many as 21%" is nearer to a fifth than your inflated "quarter". Show us proof, Franki-boy, not your prejudices. Oh, and "consistently" requires several separate, independent pieces of proof.

It's this sort of hostile exaggeration that causes other cyclists to consider you an enemy of cycling, Franki-boy.

Andre Jute
Cycling is definitely kinder to your knees than jogging

Andre, I don't know where you live but it is pretty much a common problem in California that we have homeless encampments everywhere. Until they finally cleaned it up after months there was one in Oakland three blocks from city hall. All of these people ride bicycles everywhere and these are eventually cleaned out not because of the horror of that many homeless being on the streets but because of used hypodermic needles in large piles and the sidewalks being covered with human feces. If they clean out an encampment of 50 people they are likely to find 1,000 bicycles mostly stolen and broken down. Do you live on Mars? The city allows this sort of thing when they could put portapoties there and clean them daily for a pittance what it eventually costs.

You should take that up with the council, Tom.

Do you live on Mars?

That's funny. I live in an area where "crime" is a council employee starting cutting the hedgerows back from the lanes before 1 October. Maybe somebody let her dog poop on the sidewalk a few years ago. But hey, there was a murder here once, when two dumb Poles murdered a third one, and threw the body into the river within sight of the police headquarters for the region. The crime was solved the same day before I even got out of bed, so I missed all the excitement. There is so little violent crime in my country, the state pathologist, singular, arrived from the capital by helicopter -- and it turned out she's only a part-timer.

Andre Jute
Martian