On Monday, July 31, 2017 at 10:53:16 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-07-29 17:43, jbeattie wrote:
On Saturday, July 29, 2017 at 7:34:00 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-07-28 15:57, jbeattie wrote:
On Friday, July 28, 2017 at 2:10:10 PM UTC-7, David Scheidt
wrote:
Joy Beeson wrote: :On Thu, 27
Jul 2017 09:39:03 -0700 (PDT), jbeattie
wrote:

: Just two water bottles that I filled every 50 miles.

:When I could ride that far, a bottle would last about ten
miles.

Jay's a camel.

Not like Jobst. I fill up big bottles. I just don't take more
than two -- except on rare occasion. When selecting a bike, I
don't go into the store and ask for an '80s Euro-sport bike with
a rack so I can haul gallons of water on a day ride.

Joerg has peculiar needs. I'm fine with a couple of bottle
bosses and 160mm brake rotors on a gravel bike. If I were riding
trails in the middle of nowhere, I might consider a camel back or
some other option, but I'm not. I'm never that far from water on
a day ride.



http://www.performancebike.com/webap...HydrationGuide



Quote: "Carry and consume one 16-24oz bottle of plain water, plus one
extra 16-24oz bottle of an energy drink for each hour on the
bike".

Most of my rides are 4-5h and I am a tall guy who is more at the
upper end of the water requirement scale. So there.

Yes, this also applies to Oregonians since they have a store in
Portland :-)

There used to be three Performance stores in Portand, but they closed
the one downtown -- the only one close to my work or home.

So, reading that prescription, do I have to carry eight bottles for a
four hour ride?


Certainly so in hot weather. If you carry much less and have no re-fill
options you could be causing damage to your body.


... Wow, I better start buying cages and hose clamps. Or
I could just stop every hour and fill up my bottles -- assuming I
needed all that fluid. Hmmmmmm.


I need that much fluid when it's around 100F out there like right now.
Yesterday's ride was only 20mi in hilly terrain and I consumed about
70oz of water plys 16oz of electrolyte.

Ok, plus two pints at a brewpub :-)


I did a 30 mile loop this afternoon -- nothing terrible because I'm
expecting to get throttled by some friends tomorrow. Temperature was
low-mid 80s -- blue skies, low wind. A gorgeous day. I went through
one 21oz bottle, and there is still some water sloshing around in the
bottle.


Unless you rode really slowly that wasn't healthy even without much sun.


Well, I felt good enough to go out yesterday for a 55 mile ride with about 20 miles of steady or rolling hills, during which time I drank one 24oz bottle of Hammer Heed and a quarter of a 21oz bottle of water -- plus a Cliff Bar. I went early and temperatures were mild, and except for the return trip down HWY 30, I was often under tree cover. http://www.sahdpdx.com/wp-content/up...highway_30.jpg

You complain about your drivers, I was on this road: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Fzwm4m3ZFI (although it was sunny and nice). It was pretty empty early morning, so no urban race-car drivers. First climb of the day is four miles of mostly gravel. http://www.rubbertotheroad.com/ride-...de_36/36_3.jpg It's like being in the Hobbit kingdom.

If it were blistering hot (i.e. Thursday is predicted to be 107), I would have consumed much more water, and I would have stopped to refill. The center section of the ride doesn't have anywhere to stop (unless I tapped someone's hosebib), but there are spots elsewhere, and the last eight miles home are through the city -- basically my commute route plus a few miles. If I were so inclined, I could go to a half-dozen brew pubs, including the new Breakside in NW. Their IPA is first-rate. However, I prefer not to ride home after drinking beer.

I felt way better than I should have coming home, I think because of the HEED -- and a tail wind. Drinking for recovery is just as important as drinking on the bike, so I had a beer after getting home -- and then mowed the lawn. That was hard! I drank 120oz of water!

-- Jay Beattie.