On Saturday, December 23, 2017 at 7:54:40 AM UTC, wrote:

Last I looked Schall were heavily made kinda imitating auto tires ..

$uccessful strategy

NOT 'in keeping' with trad bike devoted yet very supportive there of touring.

Exactly. Because I ride touring bikes, I hang out mainly with tourers, and I can't actually name one who isn't on Schwalbe tyres... Roadies are irrelevant, except that so many designers still cling desperately onto their roadie background as a substitute for their lost youth. The delusion that they're still "fast", which of course is shared by their clientele, skews bike design quite disastrously and does more than even the likes of the execrable Krygowski to put Joe and Jane off cycling.

But of course you knew that already but wouldn't say so on RBT.

Andre Jute
If Americans want Dutch cycling numbers and attitudes and on-road security, roadies will have to learn to ride like the Dutch, at 10mph