On Monday, December 3, 2018 at 3:35:34 PM UTC-8, John B. slocomb wrote:
On Mon, 3 Dec 2018 08:02:14 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Monday, December 3, 2018 at 3:06:42 AM UTC-8, John B. slocomb wrote:
On Sun, 2 Dec 2018 16:17:32 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Sunday, December 2, 2018 at 3:09:21 PM UTC-8, John B. slocomb wrote:

Goodness! We were talking about the alleged "fact" that you posted
that "Most carbon rims are made in China from prepreg from Japan" and
I pointed out that carbon rims are also made by U.S. companies and
that their warranty is for 5 years.

Now you are off on a on a trip through the intricacies of the USPS and
apparently complaining that U.S. made wheels are more costly then the
cheap Chinese wheels that you bought.

The last time I corrected your fantasies you changed the subject to
India and now it is (apparently) how impoverish you are.

Wake up Tom, buying stuff because it is cheap and having it fail is
not saving money.

cheers,

John B.

John, is there something about "most" you don't understand? I said MOST carbon rims. And where did you get the reliability data on American made tubeless carbon rims?

What you are saying that if I'm willing to spend 5 times as much I will get a reliable rim when the vast majority of manufacturers don't seem to share your opinion and have changed back to aluminum rims with carbon fairings.

I am curious as to why you would make patently false claims for no other reason than to criticize a posting I placed here to warn people off.

"Patently false claims"? Which ones are those? The one about carbon
rims being made in the U.S.? With a 5 year Warrantee?

Tell me john - what personal experience have you had with carbon rims? What the hell makes you believe that "American made" carbon rims have any different problems with the others? You know nothing about this and simply shoot your mouth off to feel in some manner superior and what that is for I have no idea. Didn't your mother cuddle you enough in your crib?

You said, "I am curious as to why you would make patently false
claims" and when I ask you which of my claims are "patently false" you
don't answer. I can only assume that you can't, which in turn would
seem to indicate that you are prone to saying things that just aren't
true so that when questioned your only reaction is to change the
subject. Or be caught in yet another lie.

As for composite work, I built composite boats and boat parts for
approximately 10 years so yes I do know a bit about the subject....

But I suppose you will now claim that boats and parts aren't round so
it isn't the same thing. Or will you fly off to another subject?


cheers,

John B.

Contrary to your practice I am not on this group 24 hours a day. I have a brother that just had congestive heart failure and that has a little higher priority than some jackass that believes that some company making 100 wheels a month is equal to millions made in China most of which work perfectly well.

Firstly you pretend that "most" means "all" and then you pretend that a 5 year warranty is in some manner worth more than the 2 year warranty that the company I dealt with has, when these failures didn't occur with use but upon assembly. Then you have shown NO TRACK record for your American company. Furthermore, the American wheels are built as heavily as the ones with aluminum rims and carbon fairings. So there is no gain for using solid carbon wheels.

Then on top of all of this you're too stupid to understand that the tubeless rims have far more surface area in the critical bead area and hence are exposed to far more force and you in so doing show you don't know what the Bernoulli principle means.

This is what I say by patently false. The ball is in your court.