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Old November 7th 14, 07:37 AM posted to rec.bicycles.soc
EdwardDolan
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Default Our wildlands are not outdoor gymnasiums or amusement parks.

"Phil W Lee" wrote in message ...
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Edward Dolan wrote:

Hiking with its trails has the least impact on nature of any
of man's activities. Take only pictures, leave only footprints.


The science suggests that mountainbiking and hiking have similar impacts. Unsurprising since the power is exactly the same ... one human. I very much doubt whether nature cares whether it's footprint or a tyre print. Same impact.


What science would that be? Mr. Vandeman is the world class expert on the impact of cycling on trails and he asserts that the tires of bikes on trails is much more damaging then any hiker’s boots.

Everything I've seen in the way of research actually shows that if

suitable tyres are used, the damage caused by cyclists is less than
that caused by hikers.
Rolling does less damage than stomping, and hiking boots are
particularly damaging.

You obviously have not seen how bikers ride their bikes on trails. Speed is everything and they regard a trail as nothing but an obstacle course for their ****ing sport. Try to get real if that is even remotely possible.
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Particularly when the footprints are deeper than the tyre prints.

I've never seen cyclists kick steps out of slopes to make them easier
to climb, but hikers seem to regard it as normal and reasonable
behaviour to hack holes in the environment.

Hikers are not interested in improving trails, only in navigating them without falling. Bikers on the other hand are not only into “improving” trails, but of making entirely separate trails strictly for their own use against park policy. They are notorious for that. It is why I call them criminals. You must be living in some kind of crazy fantasyland.
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Heck, he can't even agree with himself, never mind anyone else.

So the constituency he represents is only himself (and maybe the
convicted criminal vandal man).

Try to post only content. You will not win any name calling contest with me.

Mountain bikers are barbarians and have no right to be on any trail used by hikers – unless they want to get off their god damn ****ing bikes and walk like everyone else. When they crash and injure themselves, I rejoice! If and when they manage to kill themselves, I say good riddance to bad rubbish! Death to mountain biking!

“Tread softly! All the earth is holy ground.”
~ Christina Rossetti (Psalm 24),
from "A Later Life: A Double Sonnet of Sonnets"

Mountain bikes have wheels. Wheels are for roads.

Trails are for walking. What’s the matter? Can’t walk?

Ed Dolan the Great
aka
Saint Edward the Great


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