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Old February 22nd 08, 01:24 AM posted to rec.bicycles.rides,rec.bicycles.soc,alt.planning.urban,alt.autos,misc.transport.urban-transit
Jack May
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Default Reckless, Aggressive Drivers: Homegrown Terrorists


"Pat" wrote in message
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On Feb 21, 12:03 am, "Jack May" wrote:
"Tom Sherman" wrote in message

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Jack May wrote:
"donquijote1954" wrote in message
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How will this prevent the cagers from squishing cyclists, pedestrians
and
animals? Will all of the latter have to be equipped with transponders?


Probably. I think we are talking about a single chip. Since most people
carry a cell phone with them these day with location electronics, maybe
the
law requires a transponder capability like the law now require location to
be determined by each cell phone for 911 responses.

If motor vehicles are developed that will not hit each others, that will
make the cagers even more careless about cyclists and pedestrians.


We are heading to the where the car will not be able to easily hit
anything
with a transponder, including people and pets. The car will automatically
brake for example to keep from hitting a child that runs out into the
road.
That should not be hard once transponders become common.


Oh give me a break. If transponders work as you want, transportation

as we know it will come to a grinding halt with about 15 minutes.

Scenario 1: You're cruising down the highway at 70 and your cell

phone rings. You pull over and answer it (as is the law in the land
of the way-to-safe). The next car down the road approaches you from
the rear, gets within the whatever distance it is set to, and slams on
the breaks and panic-breaks so that you don't hit the stopped car.
Without a very complex set of visual cues, there's no real way to tell
if that car is in your lane or not. It could be dead-ahead but not in
your lane if there's a bend in the road. You car on the side of the
road just induced a huge traffic jam and probably a series of back-end
crashes. Oh yeah, the safety there !!!

The standard use very short pulses which can measure position to inches or
less. Your strawman is false.

Scenario 2: You're driving down the road and your car suddenly panic

stops for no reason. Everyone on the road does the same thing but
nothing's going on. Meanwhile, the kids hiding in the bushes who keep
turning a transponder (which they hid on the overpass right above your
lane) think it's a hoot to bring traffic to a stop whenever they want.

That transponder will identify its owner which will be recorded the blackbox
of many cars. The police will show up at the kid's house and arrest the
kid. Kids will quickly learn not to play with transponders,.

Scenario 3: You get used to the technology and start pushing the

limits of it. Your malfunctions some day. It doesn't stop you. You
kill the family of 4 in the Pinto ahead of you.

What do you not understand about increasing safety. We don't have to make
it perfect, just much better than the present system

Scenario 4: The government decides they are really safe and put

direction transponders in traffic lights to stop all cars at a red-
light so it cannot be ran. On a snowy day you look in your mirror and
realize the tractor trailor is skidding and can't stop. No one is
coming on the cross street in either direction. You try to run the
red light to get out of the way (which is, by the way, legal) but you
can't. Your only consolation is that you are crushed so bad that you
get on to the nightly news.

Another foolish strawman


Transponders. Yeah, great idea.


Yes they are, too bad you can't understand even their basics



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