Tom Sherman writes:

Bill Zaumen wrote:
Tom Sherman writes:

Bill Zaumen wrote:
Tom Sherman writes:


"Bicycle lanes" often endanger the cyclist at intersections (where
most cyclist/vehicle collisions occur) in return for some
psychological comfort of reducing the risk of getting hit from behind
(which is rare, even without bicycle farcilities).
Nonsense. That "psychological comfort" thing is simply a re[]h[a]sh
of
Jo[h]n Forester's silliness about bike lanes and it is meaningless
rhetoric.

Back when I first moved to an urban area that had "bicycle lanes", I
rode them since I did not know better. I soon came to the realization
that cyclists would be better off without them, particularly those who
want to make left turns.

Are you incompetent? A bike lane is no more an issue when making a left
turn than any other traffic lane on a road with more than one lane.

A bicycle lane's main advantage is when it can line up cars at
intersections with long queues of cars so that bicycles can move to
near the front of the queue without having to follow a slalom course
through stopped cars spread out across a wide lane.

That is hardly worth being ghettoized.

Cut the loaded language - it is a purely emotional argument - i.e., a
fallacious one.

As to safety, sometimes there is going to be a stripe an[y]way - either a
bike lane stripe or a shoulder stripe. The shoulder stripe gets
dropped by heading to the curb. The bike lane stripe is dropped by
simply stopping it and looks like the normal case where two lanes
merge.
And?

And what? You mean the next that followed?


At intersections with a right turn lane, we'll have the right turn
lane to the right of the "through" bike lane. The result for novice
cyclists is that they'll end up to the left of right turning cars and
the fact that they are going straight will be obvious to everyone.
Without the bike lane stripe, cyclists tend to ride on the lane stripe
dividing the through lane from the right-turn-only lane in order to
make it easier for overtaking drivers. If the cyclist is an inch
inside the right turn lane, and goes straight, the cyclist is
violating the law and that would be held against the cyclist in an
accident even though the cyclist's intentions were completely clear
and even though the cyclist was simply trying to maintain as much
clearance from motor vehicles as conditions allow.

Take the lane, dude!

Why take a lane when riding at less than the normal speed of traffic
when the road design makes that unnecessary?

Do you want them to go out of their way to make it necessary for you
to merge into the stream of traffic at each intersection?

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