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"dave" wrote in message
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Peter Signorini wrote:
"dave" wrote:

Peter it was me that had a go at you earlier btw, not Kathy. 'Think of
the children" is a pretty pathetic appeal to silly emotionalism .
"Think of my children" adds a fair amount of ego to it. "Think of my
future children" well sheesh...... And I know you didnt say others
must "Think of... " Some saving grace there.


Fcuk the emotional appeal. I was simply saying that I intended to grow
old,
have some children and watch them grow up. Pretty simple really, and
taking
up motorbiking didn't seem to fit in with doing that, IMO at the time.

It does but maybe not for you. But what I heard was "My future children
are so important that for their sake I will henceforth transport both
myself and them everywhere by Armoured Personal Carrier. (and stuff
everyone elses kids) For on their conception and future rest the fate of
the universe"

SNIP a whole lot of other stuff...

Dave

Geez, Dave. Try reading out of things instead of reading into them. It seems
you are a master of agressive reading!

Anyway, what's so wrong about emotional appeals? It seems to me that not
many arguments have a 'rational' (what does that mean, anyway?) basis. Most
are emotive - even dry scientific arguments are sparked by curiosity - an
emotive kickstart. Humans are emotionally driven beasties who have the
ability to articulate their emotional state to give others some
understanding. We apply rational principles to articulating emotions.

Nothing wrong with being concerned about one's ability to procreate in the
future and to have concerns about the health and wellbeing of those as yet
unborn kids. It's a simple, primal emotional state that is as or more valid
than objective rationality.

How many of us here can honestly say we ride bikes ONLY for objectively
altuistic reasons? Not because it's fun, not because it feels good, no
pleasure derived from the practice at all. We ride for a variety of
reasons - some that give external benefits like lessening pollution, some
internal like feeling good from the exercise and some social like dropping
the cost of health services. Some take actions for reasons like concern for
future generations. How is that any different, apart from scale, to being
oncerned about one's future family?

Just ride yer bike ad recognise that emotions should not be dismissed but
regarded as valid starting points for practical reasoning schemata...

me