On Thursday, October 11, 2018 at 7:57:14 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-10-10 15:17, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 10/10/2018 5:55 PM, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-10-10 14:29, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 10/10/2018 3:14 PM, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-10-10 09:19, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 10/10/2018 10:54 AM, Joerg wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgybEXkhvHQ

"At Exposure, we feel it's as important to use good lights throughout
the day, as well as at night."

... um, because we're trying to sell the things, of course!

I don't use flash mode on my front lights though.

Then you disagree with the source you cited?


No. Those bright lights are visible enough in non-flash mode.

Speaking of visible enough: My wife and I just returned from a little
ride. We rode out to the suburban branch of our credit union to cash a
check, then a bit beyond it into sort of semi-rural roads. We returned
by different roads. We were on some quiet residential streets, some
former farm roads that are now short cuts to housing developments, a bit
on an arterial road or two with 50 mph traffic, etc. Quite a few miles
were on lanes that were obviously too narrow to share (like 9 feet wide)
so we rode at lane center.

As usual, we had no problems with any drivers. (Well, except a couple
who were clogging things up while they seemed to be looking for
entrances to some obscure businesses). And there was absolutely no
indication that anyone had any trouble seeing us.

Apparently, we were visible enough. Our bikes both had dynamo powered
lights, but neither of us had them on.



Some people are not so lucky in the lane.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGD5P_LHEHs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abqysSwOcIQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqbbiRxoWR4

You can find videos of almost anything on the web.


It's called facts. Two university mates of mine were rear-ended in the
lane. One lost a kidney, the other had a ruptured spleen. At least in
one case the driver stuck around, something that doesn't appear popular
anymore these days.

Permission to stick head back into sand granted.

BTW, do you really ride a bike? On the road? Are you telling us that you never take the lane?

If I don't take the lane in some places, its dangerous. https://bikeportland.org/wp-content/...c1ab8d08_b.jpg Most of my commute this morning was riding in the middle of the road, which was basically the only place where one could ride. If I got far right, cars would have been squeezing by with about two inches of clearance, if any. Yes, I know you would take a gnarly trail or not ride at all for fifteen years or move to some cardboard town in the middle of Nevada nuclear test site to get away from it all. For the rest of us folks who live in population centers, however, taking the lane is not only reasonable under certain circumstances, it is the only safe thing to do. Permission to stick head back in sand granted.

-- Jay Beattie.