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Old February 1st 14, 11:34 PM posted to rec.bicycles.soc
EdwardDolan
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Default The Joys & Pleasures of Cycling on Trails

"Phil W Lee" wrote in message ...

Blackblade considered Fri, 31 Jan 2014
03:16:32 -0800 (PST) the perfect time to write:

Well, as you have already in this thread caught yourself out by not

bothering to read the report that YOU cited .. I rest my case :-)

I read the pertinent parts. Only idiots read entire reports
that are beside the issue.


And how, do tell me, are you going to figure out what is pertinent unless you bother to read it ? I would have thought that was obvious.


He probably used a search engine to find any report or subsection of a

report that makes mention of "conflict", then cut & pasted it - no
mental activity required or utilised.

I am way too lazy to even do that little. Nope, I am just uploading parts of newsletters I get via email from the hiking community. I am at the stage of life now where I never look up anything. **** it ... if I don’t already know it, then it is not worth knowing!

It's very clear that all you did was skim read to the parts that you thought supported your argument and ignored the rest ... blissfully unaware that the report, overall, doesn't support your positions at all.

Is both funny and rather pathetic at the same time.


It's so pathetic that it only acts to weaken the position he claims to

support.

No one here knows what the two of you are blathering about, least of all me.

And at least while he's playing keyboard warrior on here, he's not out

emulating his hero and indulging in criminal acts, even if he supports
them.

For someone who is so concerned about libel you show a lot of disregard for your own skin. I would be careful about labeling others criminal when in fact what you are doing might be construed by some as criminal.

But here is your true criminality being committed everywhere daily by your favorite group of miscreants – mountain bikers:

http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/san...legal-mountain

Panel at UC Santa Cruz to address illegal mountain biking

By Kara Guzman

Santa Cruz Sentinel
Posted: 01/27/2014 07:16:12 PM PST

Mountain biker Sean Andrasik poses by a water tank on UCSC's upper
campus, where biking... ( SCS )

SANTA CRUZ -- UC Santa Cruz's upper campus is home to world-famous
mountain biking trails. The problem is they aren't legal.

Biking is allowed on campus fire roads, but single-track trails are
off-limits. Despite the ban, the trails attract an estimated 1,000
riders per week, said Drew Perkins, trail officer for Mountain Bikers
of Santa Cruz, an advocacy group.

Perkins will be part of a panel of bikers and UCSC students, faculty
and staff to discuss trail use and environmental impacts at 6 p.m.
Wednesday at the Stevenson Event Center at UCSC's Stevenson College.

UCSC has done little to enforce the rule. However, the trails connect
to Henry Cowell State Park and Pogonip, where single-track biking is
largely illegal, and riders have been ticketed along Highway 9, Perkins said.

The illegal status prevents trail maintenance, which increases
bikers' environmental impact. For example, when a tree falls across a
trail, instead of clearing the path, bikers create another route, he said.

"The trails just kind of happen, where whoever initially cut them
decided they wanted to go," Perkins said.

Upper campus includes the 409-acre Campus Natural Reserve used for
teaching and research. Mountain biking in the reserve is not
compatible with the campus' values of conservation and stewardship,
said Alex Jones, campus natural reserve steward.

"Many of these trails are on steep slopes and sandy loam soils, which
has contributed to significant erosion and soil loss," Jones said.

Tim Duane, a UCSC environmental engineering professor, helped study
the effects of mountain biking on the endangered Ohlone tiger beetle,
which is found only in the upper campus and nearby Wilder Ranch.

Fast bikers harm the beetle population, he said, but slowing in
certain areas greatly decreases impact. When bikers knew of their
potential impact, they were willing to change, he said, nothing the
key is to provide an alternative.

"Basically if there's a complete ban on biking, bikers tend not to
understand why and they tend to ignore all restrictions," Duane said.

The status quo is not ideal, said Eric Johnson, founder of
Hilltromper, a website about the Santa Cruz outdoors.

"I think in the long run, things aren't going to last like this,"
Johnson said. "At some point, we could lose this incredible resource
if we don't treat it with respect."

Johnson, who will moderate Wednesday's panel, said parties are
nowhere near finding a solution, but he hopes to start a discussion.”

Mountain bikes have wheels. Wheels are for roads.

Trails are for walking. What’s the matter? Can’t walk?

Ed Dolan the Great
aka
Saint Edward the Great


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