Thread: Chain waxing
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Old June 10th 18, 04:01 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
JBeattie
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On Sunday, June 10, 2018 at 7:36:02 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-06-09 16:22, jbeattie wrote:
On Saturday, June 9, 2018 at 8:04:24 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-06-08 10:06, jbeattie wrote:


[...]

... She was up at like 2:00 AM this morning going through all my
buckets in the garage . . . totally ****ed off at the condition
of some of my bike cleaning brushes. So I asked her about the
dust under the refrigerator . . . "have you seen that . . . have
you? How could any self-respecting wife allow that disgusting
accumulation? And your hair in the drain! It's like stringy
snot! I want a divorce!"


When making bacon and eggs this morning I mentioned a li'l grease
spot on the range from yesterday. When I came home late from a fun
MTB ride and she still made a very nice dinner. That didn't go over
very well :-)

Most women are neat freaks while most men would become real slobs
if they weren't married to them.


Have you seen Lou's garage? You could do surgery on the floor
without fear of infection.


Is this the guy who ride a bike with only a front brake?


My wife has been very patient with the mess I made in the family room
downstairs. I've been watching movies and doing heavy bike
maintenance for the fleet which doubled when my son moved in after
his injury.


I'd be hearing about that every day. Though she has accepted that I ride
on dirt trails a lot and that there is a fair amount of "trail debris"
under the MTB in the garage. As long as none of it moves on its own.


I just got back from Universal where I bought a liter of Shimano
mineral oil for the hydraulic brakes. It was $4 more than buying
50ml from Bike Gallery. Incroyable -- $17.99 for 50ml. Even from
Western, it's $12.75 for 50ml. You can get 1,000ml for anywhere from
$18-22 low street price. I didn't even bother price matching at
Universal and paid $22. I'll never use all that mineral oil, but I
couldn't bear spending so much for 50ml. Maybe I'll sell the left
overs on the disk brake black market.


Sounds like the rip-off with brake pads. The LBS wants $16 for a pair of
cheap resin pads while I buy nice ceramic-based ones for around $2/pair
from China, in bulk. Well, as long as there is no brake pad tariff. The
pads at the LBS are most likely also made in China, if not at the same
factory.

An oil change on a Rohloff hub would cost you about the same as an oil
change on a car:

https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/tools/ro...-8410/?geoc=US

There must be huge profit margins on this stuff and of course they all
try to make you captive by requiring to buy at the company store or the
warranty is toast.


By the way, I tried to buy $9 worth of hydraulic mineral oil made by
Finish Line, and the guys at Bike Gallery (who I really like and have
been good to me), basically swatted my hand away, saying that Shimano
was the only way to go. I think either (1) Shimano has everyone
cowed, or (2) Finish Line needs better PR. I think Shimano actually
claims that the warranty on the hydraulic discs is voided if you use
non-Shimano magical oil.


I wonder if they'd do a full forensic investigation with each $100
warranty claim to find out which oil was used, who sold it, whether some
sort of embargo was breached and whether the goons need to be sent out.

My brakes are simple, they use DOT3 or DOT4 like the ones in our cars
do. The quantity needs costs pennies.


Shimano made the decision to go with mineral oil for the road discs, which was a legitimate choice, and considering the fill volumes, it saves a lot of waste DOT fluid that absorbs water and has to be tossed. DOT fluid is nasty on paint, etc. I can be sloppy with mineral oil -- use it for massage, laxative, etc., etc. It's multipurpose.

-- Jay Beattie.
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